INCUBATING w/FRIENDS! w/Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs No problem!

[Chaos18]

Pretty cloudy; not sure they'd see the light
At the end of the tunnel?  That was a train coming

I know

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

OK, this is a test to see if I can post a spoiler photo. I'll post something funny (in case it doesn't hide):




- Ant Farm

 

[DuckGirl77]

OK, this is a test to see if I can post a spoiler photo. I'll post something funny (in case it doesn't hide):




- Ant Farm

It worked! Love it!

 

[casportpony]

Is it dark where y'all live

Only at night

You're funny.

-Kathy

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

It worked! Thanks so much for the tips, y'all!

OK, here are the necropsy photos.

Massively enlarged liver with many small tumors


Renal mass


Bursal mass (cut in cross section) - the presence of this and the absence of nerve involvement support presumptive diagnosis of Avian Leukosis (and not Mareks). I asked for histopathology to be performed, so will know for sure when that's back...


BTW, I paraphrased the vet pathologists comments because I didn't want to post exactly what he said without his permission. So any mistakes I may have made in the process of paraphrasing are mine...

- Ant Farm

 

[kwhites634]

Quote: You're funny.

-Kathy

Hi, Kathy

 

[BullChick]

No more than normal. Actually, I'm a bit off my game; don't have my best stuff tonight

Awe! Are you okay?

Congratulations! I feel the same way - I've gotten various teaching awards and such, but one of my favorites was when, at the end of the gastrointestinal module, the students presented me with a homemade scarf that one of them had made from felt to resemble the human GI tract. Best part is the little gallbladder hanging off in the middle... 
So sorry to hear this. 
I asked him some questions on email (including what to do re: the NNs in there with the CLs who started living with them at 4 weeks), and he emailed me back and confirmed my impression (so helpful!). 
It's common to be exposed in most flocks (folks just don't know it), and incidence of clinical disease is very low. I could have an ALV-free flock if I destroyed EVERYTHING and started over with CERTIFIED ALV free eggs. But it seems that it's hard to find certified free sources, and most folks don't do that, and the REAL key is to prevent exposure to infection really early in life, during incubation or from a hatch mate (so, not hatch from affected birds with tumors and lots of virus - and not let those babies be with other babies if you do), because they end up tolerant, don't develop antibodies, and are likely to get tumors - in other words, babies from Paula and their hatch mates are all very high risk to not only get tumors but to be viremic for the rest of their lives if they don't. (So, important for those who hatch - this would be an advantage to hatching and brooding separately if you thought some eggs might be affected), So - probably culling the CL pullets in that group (once I work up to it).

On the other hand, birds exposed after about age 12 weeks are likely to just develop antibody, clear the virus, and not pass it to eggs per Merck Manual. (Same for older males mating and getting exposed). So, I am fortunate that I have kept groups separate as they have grown. The question is the two Naked Necks that have lived with the affected CLs since age 4 weeks. The way he put it, hopefully they were old enough to have developed an immune response, depending on their level of genetic resistance, in which case the infection would be shut down and eliminated. There is a risk there, but there is not a high risk of them infecting Tank in a way that would lead to him being ill, since he's so much older. 

He also said that eventually, even if I did NOTHING, the disease would be reduced to a small percentage that would be an annoyance, nothing more. 

I still have rearranged plans to figure out, but LOVE the Poultry Diagnostic Lab!!!!

Very smart. In the northwest mountains in Vietnam, we were in a van taking us to our hiking destination - driving on steep winding dirt roads on mountains WITHOUT the nice safety barrier like seen in the photo. Pretty sure our driver was high. Terrifying leg of the trip, I gotta say. Better to be in control of that mess yourself when you can... 

Thanks so much!!!!

MC has WICKED ninja waffle iron skills - she posted instructions on how to cook lots of things (the brownies keep sticking in my mind). Hope you find your waffle irons, MC!!!!!! (Oh, and I like your hard wood floors, too). 

It was a blur of strange stuff - I don't remember meanness, but I was confused a lot of the time.

Off to put the chooks to bed...

- Ant Farm

Wicked ninja, huh? Thanks. The brownies stick out in my head too!
Yes, it was strange.

I saw the light once.

 

[BullChick]

I know

Now!

 

[chicken hawk 33]

It's really dark in my wood duck eggs.I have been incubating it just on a heating pad.

 

[DwayneNLiz]

Wow that was a long one. The appliance in the picture with the mug is a coffee roaster.

lil that's why I apologized, hmm we have coffee roasters here in town..... Might have to try some

I do not remember her floor, but that is OK. For the time being, I am just so glad that the wood is smooth and not splintered. I was just saying to someone about half an hour ago that I will be putting a varnish on it when I get the chance. That there really is no hurry with as good of shape as it is in. I thought I wanted carpeting, but the floor really is nice. I am sure come winter, I'll be back to wanting some nice thick carpeting. I will see then what is happening in life. To be honest, I am thinking a nice bright red carpet. If you are referring to what I think you are, I understand! Skipping ahead was best! Take me with you!! We may end up in jail, but I am sure it will be worth it! Yes, that would have been nice. Unfortunately, my waffle iron is nowhere to be found right now. I have the times to make all kinds of things a waffle iron. I am thinking of just buying a new one! Then put it in the kitchen! Or, leave it in your bedroom. You need a new DW!

Lol!!! Maybe not bright red but dark red?

We just need someone waiting for us with the car running!!

Maybe @Sally Sunshine. She keeps saying she wants to be invited to the parties ? Lol

-Kathy

Dear Pampers Cruisers, My baby still does the "cowboy walk" the very first time she goes. It never stopped. I don't think your new design is any better. I use you because you are barely better than Luvs, and ironically better than Huggies. Stop the "we are better" commercials! Those with babies understand.

So true!!! Time for potty training!!!!

I set mine up with a cam so I could watch them where ever I was

I'm not obsessed at all

Nope, I'm not obsessed with your eggs when you post them either, when's the next hatch??

I can't tell who has been drinking the beers. Me, or my computer! No matter how many times I refreshed, or closed the browser altogether, the site would not properly load.

Ummm no beers here

One of his first pictures about six years ago.

Dawwwwww!!

Hmmm good point. Brown eggs are just shadier, then, is that why? You found my weak point: I LOVE dogs!!!!!!!!!! He's so cute!!!!

Dogs? What happened to ducks? Lol!!

OK, this is a test to see if I can post a spoiler photo. I'll post something funny (in case it doesn't hide):

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

- Ant Farm

rofl!!