INCUBATING w/FRIENDS! w/Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs No problem!

[Akrnaf2]

BENNY why are you so intent on me eating my livestock??

Don't you mean eating pets?
Livestock IS for eating.

Only ONE of my livestock is a pet. Everyone is for sale/earns their feed. The nanny goat and her doeling are the start of my 2018 milk flock. The brown whether and black billy are for sale. Hens lay eggs for me to eat or hatch. The best roos fertilize eggs and protect the flock. Lesser roos get eaten.

IDEALLY THIS WORKS. I'm just in the baby steps and there are growing pains. Ie: the farm market is flooded, so no one wants anything. That's why I'm taking my birds to an auction over the weekend. I've processed birds before, but I was using a friend's set up and haven't decided how to do it on my own. He doesn't want to drag everything out for three birds. But I don't know if my hands can take plucking three birds.

BUT I'LL GET THERE I PROMISE.

Good luck! Can you skin them out? Hubby does that on turkey and goose . Not had to process any chickens here yet.

Chicken with the skin on is much much taster!

 

[ChickenCanoe]

So I have a few questions for you guys. On Aug. 4th I received 24 serama eggs in a pretty beat up box. Nearly all had disrupted air cells, or where complete scrambles. I let them settle for 24 hrs before going into the incubator, placed them upright, didn't turn them for 72 hrs, when I did start turning them I made sure they stayed at recommended angles. I stopped turning at day 16. I'm in lock down now. I only have 6 that have made it this far. I'm preparing for an assisted hatch. I've clearly marked the air cells. What are some things to watch for during hatch when you have saddle sacks or worse in the developing eggs? I've assisted hatches before, but never with such large funky shaped air cells, are there differences in the way you judge when to help?
Tomorrow is the first day they could possibly hatch and I already have 4 rockers and at least 1 internal pip.

I did succeed in getting the post office to replace my eggs, and I received my second shipment today. The box looks pristine, but the eggs inside are as bad as the last. Only 3 have good air cells. I was given the recommendation to only let them settle for a few hours then put them in the incubator then continue babying them like I did the last, with the thought that the developing veins will stabilized the air cells better than extra hours of settling will. What have been peoples experences? should I put them in tonight? or wait til tomorrow?

Thank you very much in advance!

If it's the same incubator, I'd wait unless you have an auto turner, in which case I'd put them in sooner. The disrupted air cell is from rough treatment. IMHO, an egg turner isn't rough treatment.
I think 72 hours is a long time to wait on shipped eggs. They're already at least 4 days old when you get them.

 

[Akrnaf2]

Only ONE of my livestock is a pet. Everyone is for sale/earns their feed. The nanny goat and her doeling are the start of my 2018 milk flock. The brown whether and black billy are for sale. Hens lay eggs for me to eat or hatch. The best roos fertilize eggs and protect the flock. Lesser roos get eaten.


IDEALLY THIS WORKS. I'm just in the baby steps and there are growing pains. Ie: the farm market is flooded, so no one wants anything. That's why I'm taking my birds to an auction over the weekend. I've processed birds before, but I was using a friend's set up and haven't decided how to do it on my own. He doesn't want to drag everything out for three birds. But I don't know if my hands can take plucking three birds.


BUT I'LL GET THERE I PROMISE.

Three is about all I can get done at once with no help.

Perhaps you'll have a large enough goat flock eventually to sell to restaurants.

I think I make make them "sustainable" (pay for winter feed) by selling kids. Any does added in the future will be registered. Summer is handled through camp income (they're programming/an attraction).

Chickens, once I sell the summer flock, will pay for their winter feed through layer eggs and sales of the HRIR and svart honas. I'm new to both, so still getting my feet wet but I think I've got good stock.

Camp don't forget to eat some of tgem once in a wail! They are super good for you and your famil! You kniw what they have been eating, and you know that they are helty and clean! That makes them ptime protein for you! And that is a shame if you do not use!

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Camp don forget to eat some of tgem once in a wail! They are super good for you and your famil! You kniw what they have been eating, and you know that they are helty and clean! That makes them ptime protein for you! And that is a shame if you do not use!

X2

 

[ChickenCanoe]

@Chaos18 Thanks. I need something for my horizontal nipple waterers. I also want to spend more time on the waterer thread to find a rainwater bigger option, but how do you keep it fresh?
@ChickenCanoe I used tupper for their first week or ten days with dog pads or paper towels depending on the group. I then put them in the dog pen with the tarp plastic pulled up and clipped with several inches of shavings. Pulling it up keeps the shavings in, and the chicks too while they are small enough to get through the holes.

I see. So you put the plastic on the outside of the cage?
I like that plan.

 

[Akrnaf2]

This house (1903) was built with a coal chute, coal room and a coal burning boiler. Later it was converted to a gas boiler to heat the radiators in each room.
The fireplace is also a coal burner. There are two chimneys side by side for both the boiler and the fireplace.
The coal flue is too small and the fire box too tall and narrow for a wood fire.
I plan on enlarging the fireplace, tying it into the larger coal boiler flue and perhaps adding a smaller, efficient gas boiler to heat the paved sections of the property for snowmelt.
Heating the house is no longer with radiators even though they are still in place. There are 2 forced air gas furnaces, one on each floor.
Coal smoke pollution was so bad here by the 1920s that the Missouri Botanical Garden was convinced the tropical plants wouldn't survive the lack of sunlight and smoky air. They bought a property about 40 miles west, to where they were planning on moving all the sensitive plants - especially the expansive and expensive orchid collection.
It was estimated that people in the city inhaled 15 tablespoons of soot in a 5 day winter period.
If you look at the 1920s history in the following link you'll see how things changed.
https://www.mobot.org/mobot/archives/fulltext_images.asp



I haven't but may try it. I've wrapped my water barrels to prevent sunlight from causing algae growth.

Wrapped. With what,?

Enthing that blocks the light

 

[Akrnaf2]

To much misspellings! I need to sleep!
Good night to all of you!

 

[ChickenCanoe]

To much misspellings! I need to sleep!
Good night to all of you!

You're doing fine but you should also get your sleep.
Nitey-nite.

 

[Fluffyserama]

If it's the same incubator, I'd wait unless you have an auto turner, in which case I'd put them in sooner. The disrupted air cell is from rough treatment. IMHO, an egg turner isn't rough treatment.
I think 72 hours is a long time to wait on shipped eggs. They're already at least 4 days old when you get them.

I do have an auto turner. I took out two of the racks and made a hardware cloth 'box' that fits the space. The eggs about to hatch are in part of an inverted egg carton inside the the partitioned off area

 

[Fluffyserama]

paranoid about little chicks hatching out in the night and getting caught in the auto turner.