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[mlm Mike]

morning

Good morning!

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[Pensmaster]

looks clear today!!! finally!!

Good. Still dark here will have to check gauge when I get out there. 9 day here shows no more rain.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

@ sally not smakin anyone, just thinkin people who don't look at schedules,

I see!!!!!

 

[SilverHair]

We had a lady miss her appointment so we caller her. Rather indignant she says it's not until the 23rd. Yes and today is the 23rd was our reply.

I hear that, we have mowing sit up for WED for 2 yards, today is Monday, after the calls I loaded up the mower my mate is going out as soon as he wakes up,

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: ahhh yes time zone, forget that when we seem to be all in one place here! lol dang sorry about the rain. what do you love about where you live?

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Here's my birthday present!

Happy Birthday! You won't be able to forget the hatch date.

Thank you dear" ktiva vhatima tova" to you and your family and freinds!
This dish aren't the meal, they come before the meal, it is a religious ceremony of making some blessing on the dish and served it to all the family
The most knowen is the appel in honey a sign for a good a sweet year
We do 3 type of it
1 is an appel cooked in honey and cinamon with sesame seeds
2. Quince cooked in sugar syrup and cinamon
3. An appel cut and drizzled upon honey
The scond is the pomegranate that have a lot of seeds in it a sign that we will have a lot of good deeds this year
And do on and so on

Dessert before dinner.

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4 type of salads
Fish
Meat balls in sauce
Beef pot rost in aromatic herbs
Debone chickens Stuffed with mushroom spinach and pine nuts stuffing
Honey cake, chocolate cake, home made ice cream, wine fruit, coffee herbal tea and home made bred.

Good morning all. Its flooded in front of the coop but the pea gravel inside is great!! Bill used the quad to tow it back there in trips (small homemade trailer) so it tore up some of the grass. He is tired and sore and back to work today. The sand can wait-not worth hurting himself, me or making more of a mess on the land in front of the coop.
@ChickenCanoe Let me know if you sell your eggs! I would love some good free rangers.We have a ton of land (but have the same feed problems in winter-its ok thats what the feed store if for!) My run is for my ornamental birds like my silkies and polish that are more prone to predators (the silkies let me scoop them right up and the polish never see me coming!)

I'll let you know when I have enough. 9 mature hens and only one laying. The rest are molting.
I have 5 pullets that will be laying in the next month or so. Then another 20 that should be laying by the end of the year or in January.

No-some of it will wash away and we will end up adding fresh sand periodically but the weight of it with part blended with the gravel should be ok. I just asked bill this and he said this week of rain has been rare so he isn't too worried. I think that barrier and gravel was the best idea-I just didn't want a flood in there every time it rained. t usually dries up after a day but weeks worth of rain was just too much! I am also going to go heavier on the sand toward the middle and lighter on the outskirts and then rake outward. And Bill is getting roof ideas for when it rains.

Is your run on flat ground or at the bottom of a hill?
The only enclosed run I have is half covered (the coop end) with corrugated metal roofing slightly sloped to the low side. In spite of some periods of heavy rain Half of the run stays relatively dry.

Whew... I'm exhausted from my busy work week and weekend.

In chicken news.... I've been letting my broody and her chicks free range with the flock and it's gone so beautifully!

They also are coming back to their coop at bedtime.

That's good. Unless one is planning on keeping chicks separate from the flock till they're mature, they're best off letting the mother hen introduce them to the flock when they're small. That's when she will be most protective. By the time she weans them, they're accepted as part of the flock.
If they wait till weaned, the hen won't protect them and they can be injured or worse.

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Can't transfer pics from my phone to computer but forgot about the iPad! Here's some of the work in progress... Notice the mudpuddle if front of the coop. No more work until it has dried out! At least the birds aren't wallowing in mud anymore!!!

You need to build up the elevation in the run. Is there a low side you can put drain pipe in to route water away?

Another thing I notice is that the stocking density seems high.

Bill built this one for me but when he said he was out of time.... well the layer need to be separate from the ornamentals and the seramas are a completely different story!!! So I found a company that is coming out to build my second coop....

Turns out that with the extra materials he had to buy, it will only be a couple hundred more and save him all the labor!

And I went to my breeders house and looked at their serama setups and got ideas... I found these great wood shelving units that will give me 12 36x24x32" breeding pens-he was excited to get a compressor and air tools-now all he has to do is add chicken wire and hinged doors to them! And I have a surplus of cages for "chicken math" problems... Still need a "duck hut" for winter but thats just a separate box with hay in their pen and I will deal with the breeding pens for anything I want to breed in the spring. I'm kinda like @kajira he's happy I have a hobby I love and we both work at places that want fresh eggs.... so win/win!

Time is money.

Will chicken wire be the only thing between them and predators or will they be in a building at night?

I just figure I'm having all the kids for my relatives that chose to stay childless. *nodnod*

That's a plan.

My filter just went out after I cleaned it and plugged it back in

What brand is it?

Guys I need Help!!! I've got a hurt chick!! Y'all paying attention???

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Sorry was checking on her. Ok my hen found a way out of her pen with her chicks. One of my fat mean roosters somehow hurt one. I believe he pecked it. Now she's walking funny. Stumbling all over. Cannot keep up with mama and siblings. She extending her right leg but I've checked her all over. No puncture wounds,no blood,nothing. She's got feeling in her legs and feet and toes. She pulls them in when I gently extend them. She grips my fingers with her feet when I pick her up. I've moved them into the pen and she's actually starting to walk! A lot better,still stumbling on the pine straw but showing improvement. Any suggestions? How do I help or do I allow her to heal on her own and the problem will correct itself? Will mama try to kill her due to her weakness and her subjecting the group to danger? Awe this breaks my heart!!!!

Give it time. It will probably be OK.

I don't have one honey. I've only ever hatched under a broody. Now what???

. I can bring her in. I've done it before. I used a cat carrier. Sanitized of course. And covered up a heating pad with pine chips. Had food and water inside. Would that work? For how long before I can hopefully reunite her with her family?

All you need is a box with paper towels and depending on the age of the chick, a drop light with a 75 watt lamp.
If it is 3 weeks old, it won't need any heat in the house.

I can't believe it's day five already on my eggs in the bator

That happens when you have other hobbies and don't think about the bator 24/7.

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I'm excited

Would you please finish your thought in the same post?

So, if parent chickens had coccidia as babies, survived, grew up, and layed eggs. The eggs were incubated in an incubator, and upon hatch were immediately sent to another farm all together with no coccidia in the pens, would the newly hatched chicks still get coccidia?

There will be coccidia everywhere on earth in tropical and temperate zones. So if the chicks have not yet developed resistance to the species in the new environment they can contract coccidiosis.
Coccidia is a protozoa that includes many species. They affect all livestock but are species specific. Those that infect chickens won't infect goats, horses, dogs, cats, etc. and vice versa. Each of the 9 species that infect chickens occupy a different portion of the digestive tract. Coccidia don't survive freezing temperatures, temps about 135F or very dry conditions. Coccidia is not passed on vertically from hen to chick through the egg. A chick in a clean brooder cannot contract coccidia. Usually the first exposure in when they have contact with soil. When picking in the soil, they will pick up oocysts. If there are just a few, the chick will develop resistance quickly. If there are too many, they will become infected and require medication.
Medicated feed won't do anything if there are no coccidia in the digestive tract. It works by simulating thiamine and starving the protozoa. If they have medicated feed while in a brooder and then are given non-medicated feed when exposed to high concentrations of oocysts, the will still likely contract coccidiosis.
High stocking density and moist conditions are the biggest contributors of coccidiosis. Keeping feeders full and bedding bone dry will prevent them from contracting coccidiosis because they won't be eating their feces as much and the coccidia can't complete their lifecycle in dry conditions.
Usually coccidiosis strikes when chicks are 3-6 weeks of age. (When they first become exposed to soil.
Healthy chicks with good gut flora (probiotics) will rapidly become immune. Chicks weakened from other diseases like marek's or stressed by crowded conditions are more likely to be infected.
The worst outbreaks occur when large numbers of birds are brought together from different sources bring different species of coccidia with them.
If a chicken has become resistant to the species present in their soil but are then moved to a property with different species, they can still get coccidiosis because they have not yet developed resistance to that strain, regardless of age.

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So basically does every single chicken carry it, even very healthy ones, but it just gets out of control when environmental conditions are bad?

Chicks grown on wire or in a clean brooder with bone dry bedding won't carry the protozoa.

I'm one of 7 too! 4 older, 2 younger!

I'm the only one who wanted a big family though ;o

I'm one of 4. My dad was the only one of his 5 siblings to have children.
My mom was one of 7. Her siblings had anywhere from 1 to 11.
We had 2, so we replaced ourselves.

So if you had chicks who had it when they were little, you don't have to get rid of the chicks if you want to breed later on. You could actually use them for breeding?

Coccidia shouldn't affect breeding unless they're severely weakened.

Ok, I have one batch that had it, and I have been very careful about not letting them anywhere near my other chickens, who never had it. I was religiously cleaning their waterer and feeder, and keeping them far away from any other chickens, and even went as far as to boil their waterer and feeder before using it anywhere else. I was thinking that I always needed to keep them isolated because it would be in their stool forever, but if every chicken carries it, that wouldn't be the case. I really don't want to take any chances at all of spreading it to others, if not all chickens have it in their bodies. None of my others have ever shown syptoms.

The short life cycle goes like this. A chicken eats an oocyst which contains 8 coccidia in a form similar to a spore (like malaria) called a sporozoite. It gets crushed in the gizzard releasing the eight spores. In the next 4 days, there will be two or more new generations depending on species. By this time there are millions of oocysts in the chicken's feces.
How serious the infection is depends on the number of oocysts it eats. In a highly contaminated environment, they could eat up to a million infectious oocysts.
It could be spread by the feet of wild birds.
It's possible to have the conditions too clean to fight the protozoa. The reason is, oocysts are vulnerable to ammonia, molds and bacteria so they don't survive long in litter.

http://www.corid.com/Pages/demo.html

Ohhh ok. I almost said or it was during the colder part of the season where you have more time to gut and process. In the winter here we will shoot one and leave it lay until we're done hunting for that time. So we don't disturb the woods with our scent and noise. Then we'll go get it and do our deed. I like the cold weather because you have that option. Not like in the heat when you only have so much time!

One of those was in hot summertime and it was very difficult to keep the flies off the carcass while I worked.

I know you guys have tons of rain and we have none. I really don't like sliding around in the mud when it does come but we need some serious water this year. Sure settled the dust

Praying for rain for you.

2 road island reds and 3 sex links dont know what kind they are

Rhode Island - same as the state.

Thank you!
I can see that you can't sleep!
Does your DH can help you?

 

[daxigait]

y not?

Go chickies! Do what do your puppies sell for that makes two litters at a time worth the stress?

 

[Pensmaster]

ahhh yes time zone, forget that when we seem to be all in one place here! lol   dang sorry about the rain.  what do you love about where you live?

The weather.

Certainly not the taxes we will move out of state when I retire more than likely.

 

[mlm Mike]

Quote: Any idea on where you would like to move?

 

[Pensmaster]

Any idea on where you would like to move?

Not sure yet.