pipd~Haha I can just picture that scene! That sounds like my (neutered) cat, Diablo. If he's outside having a stand-off with the neighbor's cat, he wails like he is dying, but when I go outside to his aid, he suddenly becomes fierce. Here he is wearing a chicken hat. He would really be humiliated if the neighbor's cat saw him dressed like a chicken. Oh, and if you post some recent pictures of your Orpington ladies I can give you my best guess at how close to laying they are. I'm betting it'll be a while, though, because as I understand, English Orpingtons (and especially Jubilee Orpingtons) are slow to mature. Thanks for the offer! I realized that it's been over a month since I took photos of them (page 1370). I will take some tomorrow since it's supposed to be nice and sunny. kabhyper~ You must be in heaven with all those darling, fuzzy chicks to play with! ellymayRans~ Please post a pic of your sizzle. I fell in love with some I recently saw on CL and was so tempted to get them. Last night, I opened a July/Aug copy of Hobby Farms "Chickens" magazine that I bought at RK over the summer. The first thing I saw was an ad for the Lebanon chicken show! Weird coincidence. Then I read that if a hen carries a copy of the frizzle gene, it's possible that she can look normal and then, after a molt, the new feathers are frizzled. That would be a surprise!