Yep you're correct on that, mine have the bowtie, had 1 true NN roo but lost him. Just hoping I get at least a few out of the batch. there are a couple of nonNN in there too I know but just can't tell their eggs from the NN's! That's why I'm "hoping"! I'm getting ready to pair up a BCM roo with BCM hen so I can hatch a few more BCM's for myself as I only have a couple laying at the moment due to molting/season. I'm interested to see if he fathered any of the NN's; love to see that copper hackles on a black NN! I would take you up on the roo but I have MANY I need to be rid of or my DH will have a fit! lol I took some to the Lebanon show (3) and came home with them plus 1! He wasn't too happy with me on that one! The last hatch I had out of the 14 I know for sure I have 9 Maybe 10 cocks! Ugh! My fault though for not separating them for true breeding because it caused me to have mixes which I don't want, but had to try the hatching thing out! I only got 1 true BCM cock and a few Olive Eggers but of course I'm pretty certain atleast 2 of the 3 hatched are cocks. Not sure what I'm going to do with them all since I've not had any luck on the BST forum here or CL. My oldest boy and my brother have both offered to butcher but just keep hoping they'll get an opportunity to live there lives out...just some where else.