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I'm guessing you don't have a cone to contain the flapping.  A milk jug can be used if you expand the hole a touch so the head can get through it.  but you still have to nail the jug up somewhere you can get a bucket underneath to catch stuff.  

there is the AX method but many say it takes a heavy swing and you have to keep the chicken's neck in the right place.

for us we went out and got a super sharp knife and we cut the 2 main veins.  it is messy but the flapping is contained as we have a cone.  For me now the removal of the insides is the hardest part.


What about sleeping pills dissolved in a very little bit of water, you could get her to swallow it using a dropper.

i read the link you posted, even though it came right out and said all that it makes me feel better to hear all the truth. mo i font have a killing cone. i am seriuosly thinking about hanging her up by the legs sayingmy last good byes cutting her throat,. and running away without looking back. i feeling i would look back. i never really thought sbout drugging her. Which ever way i go i know i am going to feel bad. i might as well puck a way and get it over with. If it makes any difference i am not going to eat her.
 
CCCHICKENS posted: [COLOR=333333]i am sure i would screw up ir be unable ti accomplish the brromstick method. And man that way sooind cruel. of coirse that would kill them at that point i would rather just run over her. Even that sounds less harsh[/COLOR]

[COLOR=A52A2A]CCCHICKENS~[/COLOR] [COLOR=8B4513]I am so sorry to hear that you have another chicken with a leg injury. I agree with you that you shouldn't be the one to end her life since it would be traumatizing to both of you. She deserves a humane death by an experienced person. Do you live near any members who process chickens?[/COLOR]

no i dont. i do know of one person who butchers chickens i dont know if he would just kill her for me though. I could call him. that worth a shot. I just dint want her suffering
 
[COLOR=8B4513]I knew we were running too late for the chicken show, but as we neared the Bloomington Rural King on the way into town, I suggested to DH that we stop at RK to look at the chicks. He replied, "I didn't know there was such a thing as fall chicks, and he kinda sped up and drove right by! I wasn't really surprised. I did get a chicken fix by visiting his cousin's chickens.[/COLOR] [COLOR=8B4513]While we were there, I saw this snake passing by and someone said that it was a water snake. I haven't been able to identify it by looking online . . . I know we have some snake experts on this thread who may know . . . [/COLOR] [rule][COLOR=333333]danad posted: Gun chief- we were there [Bloomington Poultry Show] about the same time!! Sorry we didn't meet!:( [/COLOR] [COLOR=A52A2A]danad & gunchief~[/COLOR] [COLOR=8B4513]Did you both wear your name tags I posted for easy recognition or did you wear disguises to ensure you wouldn't be harassed? [/COLOR]:rolleyes: [rule][COLOR=333333]Originally Posted by jchny2000 [/COLOR] [COLOR=333333] I will be using the old hog pasture area for the garden. Plan to turn it before winter again in the spring.[/COLOR] [COLOR=333333]Any suggestions to prepare the soil otherwise?[/COLOR] [COLOR=0000CD]Janet~ [/COLOR]I remembered your question and asked my brother-in-law, who recently retired as an agronomist for Indiana Geological Survey/IU. He suggested that you send a soil sample to Purdue where they can determine if it needs lime or phosphorus, etc. Here's more info: www.ag.purdue.edu/counties/marion/Pages/SoilSamplingTesting.aspx I just noticed that hogster already suggested the same thing! I didn't even have to ask a soil scientist, after all. hogster posted: [COLOR=333333] I did see one white chicken (really don't know what kind she is lmao) that has some raised scales in the bend of her foot. [/COLOR] [COLOR=008080]hogster~[/COLOR] Google "scaley leg mites." (There are mild to heavy cases) My BR had that, which caused raised scales on her legs/bend of foot. The treatment that worked the best was using VetRx (camphor & oils)-- rub on legs several days in a row. Clean/change bedding...you can read more online, or if you think yours has scaley leg mites (transmitted from wild birds), you can let me know. [rule][COLOR=800080]jsummers~[/COLOR] I was just thinking about you the other day and wondered where you've been. Good to have you posting again! :)
I asked DH... He said good 'ol fashioned water snake. Looks like a coral snake but not poisonous.
 
Ok, non chicken question.

I have netflix. I originally signed up for the free month. I'd keep it for a while then cancel due to the lack of movies on it. They send me another email several months later giving me another free month. I sign back up and then cancel after a few months. Well I'm about to cancel again and considering going with redbox instant. Anyone have this? Is the movie selection any better?

I think I'm about the only person my age who doesn't have satellite or cable tv. I'm just too cheap for satellite (only thing I can get). So I just have the Farmer 5 (abc, NBC, CBS, PBS, and fox which is now like 15 channels since digital over the air came about) and have a Roku. Just curious if redbox instant is worth it (even though they emailed me a free month trial as well I just hate giving debit card number if I don't have to). What about Hulu plus?
My daughters (20,24) have wanted Netflix only-- no cable. The latest trend is to use a simple indoor TV antenna (like the old days) to receive free HD TV. My left-brained son just made one. My right-brained self thinks it looks like four cats.

(The cable in the center hooks to the TV). My son said that people who have an Amazon Prime account, receive free Amazon Instant Video (TV and movies) --or you can pay a fee that's less than the other services. He said that the major companies are affiliated with networks, which affect the shows they offer. For example, Amazon & CBS have a deal. Netflix has deals with NBC and several movie companies. HuluPlus is good for TV, but has a poor movie selection and has commercials. Redbox instant specializes in new movies. Depending on if you like TV, new movies, older movies, a particular series, etc., one will fit your interest better. Or you can make your own antenna and watch for free ---the old school way!
 
vickichicki~ Thanks for the ID. I didn't think it looked like a coral snake. We also saw a larger, black snake crossing the road nearby. I didn't get a good look at it, but assumed it was a king snake. When I looked online at snakes, I saw a pic of a poisonous black massasauga. Hope that wasn't it! My brother-in-law's dog was bitten in the nose by a copperhead. (Very large vet bill) The DNR herpetologists came, put metal pipes down, and a copperhead made a (warm in the sun) home in it and was relocated the next day. My BIL made a snake catcher out of an old golf club, found another copperhead and relocated it.

Rural King Rant~ I'll join in with my review: Both stores in Evansville are horrible! No one who works there knows anything about the products or where anything is located. I have often been told, "I don't think we have that." (not familiar with product) and "I think it's over in that direction." (don't know its location) I always leave mad and swear I won't be back, but the only other chicken store is TSC, which isn't handy and it's small. There's a certain older man who works there and has chickens, so he's helpful if he's there.
 
Quote: Many of us hatch year around.. yep crazy chicken people! once you choose the breeds you like best, check out our member list. You will probably find those adorable chicks you want
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Double Yolk Weekend (Makes more sense that saying Doubleheader
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Hope to see some fellow BYCers!
DH and I are going to the Bloomington poultry show depending on the time (we're an hour behind). I know it starts at 9:00am and I thought I read it was open all day, but I just read something else that sounded like everyone leaves after the judging! Does anyone know? I will PM pbirdhaven because I think she is showing there. We're going to IU under the guise of visiting our younger daughter, so I'm hoping we can stop by the poultry show. Saturday evening DH gets his turn when we attend the football game. The next day we're going to Indy under the guise of visiting our older daughter and we'll check out the Coop Tour. The weather sounds like it will be great. I am still worrying about what shoes to wear that I can spray Clorox Clean-up on. I don't have any white plastic shoes!
Name Tag for Bloomington Poultry Show & Indy Coop Tour
I made a 3" x 4" name tag that people can use if they wish to identify themselves at the events this weekend. It's interactive: you can use a red marker to fill in your county!
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This is just an idea if people want to look for Indiana BYCers. Just click on the image, "save as" NameTag to your desktop or wherever to print it off. Don't make me be the only one wearing it!
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September 21 • Saturday

Southern Indiana Poultry Show
Monroe County Fairgrounds
5700 West Airport Road
Bloomington, IN
9:00am -



September 22 • Sunday
Indianapolis, Indiana
Pre-sale tickets are $8 at naptownchickens.org; day-of tickets run $10. A portion of proceeds will fund the installation of a fully furnished and stocked coop at a local school. There will be 12 “show coops” on display. This is an “open-house” style event and can be explored at your leisure by bicycle or car.
Thanks M2H for all you do! Wish we could have made it, I got trumped by the 4 Wheel drive jamboree. DH does it every year.
Quote: Being a former AC officer/director and worked under a city PD, they don't care, trust me. They HOPE you handle it so they don't have to..
Most officers I worked with had major eye rolls if they were sent on a "animal call" Took 20 minutes for backup when I was attacked on a call about a German Sheperd.
Mauled an elderly man, got him to safety and this dog went after me in the process. This man had his own fenced yard, and no pets,
Bitten bad on my leg and had stitches, and still fighting this dog when I finally got answers for help!
Had the dog crated by time my "help" arrived.That was my final call that made me leave,I was past angry at this point. I was with the PD for 5 years,
The officers on duty were at lunch aside from 2 on an accident.That poor man was severely bitten and you can't leave your lunch for that?
Most restaurants save the officers meal, and offer free meals to officers; Very upsetting I wasn't backed up, let alone the poor guy that was attacked,
Dogs can and will attack people and livestock,and will continue until stopped or the victim is dead.. Its instincts that dogs have without being taught otherwise.
I would call town hall, talk to the town manager if there is one, the mayor and police chief, for starters!
They don't want bad publicity. Be hateful and angry to get your point across, it is their state mandated JOB, whether they like it or not.
I am on a rampage with Madison Co right now, they refuse to pick up stray cats. They are NOT wildlife and are a domestic animal.
It is not my fault people abandon their unwanted cats at my farm;
Will post details as I fight this ridiculous crap. I am really tired of the irresponsible owners thinking I need another cat here!
Have had 3 attack my chickens so far, been several I have found starved to death, Just sad, poor things, not right.

OH MY, BE STILL MY HEART!!!!
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LIL FUZZIES! They are just adorable!
 
That is an awesome picture. Now I want a barred rock.
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I got a little closer to finishing my coop before winter today. Welcome to my hot dog stand, lol. That's what it looks like This side was completely open all summer. There is still fencing in over the coop area. I made it so I can close it up for winter and open it up again next summer.



Finished closing in the wall on the nest box side.



This side (left) that goes into the run was wide open all summer too. Now just a door. The near side opens up (3 boards) for access to the feeder and waterer and the bottom bottom board opens down to slide the poop tray out.



I still have some more to do before winter but I got a lot done today. Also, I met SallyInIndiana today!
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It was nice to meet you and your family.

Coop looks great. Do you have protection from ariel attacks? And your chickens are looking at you taking pictures, saying why don't you do something important, like let us outta here?
We also don't have cable or satellite. Although the thought of living without internet access makes me ill..
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If we watch tv, it is usually Hulu Plus. We also have iTunes, and have watched shows on there too. Chicken TV is more fun for me....

Didn't go on the Tour de Coops in Indy today, but did drop by Agrarian (urban chicken store). They had a lot of cute, but expensive stuff. There was a choice of organic feeds, but I couldn't justify the cost. If I was feeding a chicken or 5, I would think about it. But I exceeded 5 chickens just reading the MCMM hatchery add. I think it is awesome though that there are enough chicken folk in the Indy area to support a store like that. They said business was going well, and sponsoring the Tour De Coops was a big bonus for them. They also had some local bee keepers set up outside showing off their hives and supplies. That kept my partner happy talking about his bees.
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You would be surprised how many urban bee keepers there are too.
I didn't know y'all had bees either. Cool.

Also, funny story about the egg smashed in the pocket. I have carried a few that way, but so far no broken ones. It'll happen if I keep doing it!
 
Too Fast~ I posted this before, but I don't think you were smart enough to read it (Just Kidding!!)
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Dr. Lesley Rogers, Professor of Zoology at University of New England, Australia
t is now clear that birds have cognitive capacities equivalent to those of mammals, even primates.”
Rogers LJ, The Development of Brain and Behaviour in the Chicken (Wallingford, Oxon, U.K.: CABI Publishing, 1995, p. 217).
Dr. Joy Mench, Professor of Animal Science at University of California at Davis
“Dr. Joy Mench, Professor and Director of the Center for Animal Welfare at the Univ. of Calif. at Davis explains, ‘Chickens show sophisticated social behavior….That’s what a pecking order is all about. They can recognize more than a hundred other chickens and remember them. They have more than thirty types of vocalizations.’”
Specter M, “The Extremist,” The New Yorker, April 14, 2003, p. 64.
Dr. Chris Evans, Professor of Psychology at Macquarie University, Australia
“Chickens exist in stable social groups. They can recognize each other by their facial features. They have 24 distinct cries that communicate a wealth of information to one other, including separate alarm calls depending on whether a predator is traveling by land or sea. They are good at solving problems. ‘As a trick at conferences I sometimes list these attributes, without mentioning chickens, and people think I’m talking about monkeys,’ Mr. Evans said.
Perhaps most persuasive is the chicken’s intriguing ability to understand that an object, when taken away and hidden, nevertheless continues to exist. This is beyond the capacity of small children.”
Grimes W, “If Chickens Are So Smart, Why Aren’t They Eating Us?” New York Times, January 12, 2003.
Dr. Christine Nicol, Professor of Veterinary Science at Bristol University, England
“‘They may be bird brains, but we need to redefine what we mean by bird brains,’ she told the British Association Festival of Science at Leicester University. ‘Chickens have shown us they can do things people didn’t think they could do. There are hidden depths to chickens, definitely.’”
Ananova, “Chickens ‘Not Just Bird-Brains,’” September 11, 2002.http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_668673.html
Dr. Bernard Rollin, Professor of Animal Science at Colorado State University
“Contrary to what one may hear from the industry, chickens are not mindless, simple automata but are complex behaviorally, do quite well in learning, show a rich social organization, and have a diverse repertoire of calls. Anyone who has kept barnyard chickens also recognizes their significant differences in personality.”
Rollin B, Farm Animal Welfare: School, Bioethical, and Research Issues (Iowa State University Press, 1995, p. 118).


Yes but still, I am smart enough to recognize when it is raining and come in out of the rain and into some shelter. But then again, I don't have a whole body covered in feathers for protection.

Vicki, glad your coon episode ended well for you.
 
Yes but still, I am smart enough to recognize when it is raining and come in out of the rain and into some shelter.  But then again, I don't have a whole body covered in feathers for protection.

Vicki, glad your coon episode ended well for you.

my chickens love rain they never go inside when it rains. And man do they look ugly when they are wet!
 

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