Ineresting -- California Grey is considered dual-purpose, but is smaller than the Leghorn

[chooks4life]

Aussie Leghorns are often reliable mothers and broodies. I just don't like the breed from my experience with it. Not as bad as Isabrowns, not by a long shot, but the males tended to be too noisy, loud, aggressive, stupid, and flighty, and the females were too plain, noisy, and flighty for my tastes. I know that's mainly an issue of the most recent breeder, not the breed itself... But I'd have to like them to want to improve my lot. Instead, since I don't like them, I sold them. One other thing was the Leghorn males I've gotten all had an extremely high incidence of sexual attraction to humans, too. I bet someone was using AI in a hatchery nearby, or something like that.

I don't like pure white anythings either. But colored Leghorns retain the qualities I disliked besides color in the whites. I consider all-white feathering or fur a weakness if not natural to the species. I know a well bred bird or animal is fine no matter the color, but have had bad experiences with many all-white animals, which probably has a lot to do with Australia's climate really. Each to their own.

 

[Bullitt]

I was not having a problem with the link , I couldn't get my computer to copy and paste the links. Still can't.

The very first paragraph, fourth sentence in the Feathersite article states they are " heavier than a Leghorn but not as chunky as a Rock". The size standards that you have posted are show standards that doesn't relate to the development of either of these breeds as productions birds. That was their first use production not show.

This is the only thing I posted about California Grey chickens. http://www.strombergschickens.com/product/California-Grey-Chicks/Best-Egg-Laying-Chickens

I do not see what you are referring to.

 

[Old Rando]

The links you posted are quoting show standard weights not production weights. Buy some chickens from them, weigh them and then you will know.

I was quoting the article from Feathersite.com concerning the size being heavier than a leghorn. I referenced the feathersite article in an earlier post. This is the article I stated I could not copy and paste the link. Go to Feathersite.com and look for California Greys yourself.

 

[Bullitt]

The only link with what might be "show" weights would be the Australian standards.

The others are hatcheries stating what their birds weigh.

 

[Bullitt]

Aussie Leghorns are often reliable mothers and broodies.

Australian strains of Leghorns must be very different than Leghorns in the United States. White and Brown Leghorns in the United States almost never go broody. I think the same is true for other Leghorn varieties in the United States.

 

[Old Rando]

The hatcheries are only repeating what breed standards indicate what the weights should be. It has become common practice in their catalogs. They are not actually stating weights of the birds you would receive at maturity. A white leghorn hen from a hatchery will only weigh 3-3.5 pounds at maturity but be an egg laying machine.

 

[Bullitt]

The hatcheries are only repeating what breed standards indicate what the weights should be. It has become common practice in their catalogs. They are not actually stating weights of the birds you would receive at maturity. A white leghorn hen from a hatchery will only weigh 3-3.5 pounds at maturity but be an egg laying machine.

In some cases, yes. But not in all cases.

But that does not change what we are discussing. We are discussing the standard weights of California Greys versus White Leghorns.

 

[Old Rando]

I thought we were discussing the dual purpose qualities of the California Grey as apposed to the White Leghorn. A breed standard accepted by a show institution such as the APA is a completely different thing. That is what the term "standard weight" indicates. My mistake I will stay out of the discussion. .

 

[Bullitt]

I thought we were discussing the dual purpose qualities of the California Grey as apposed to the White Leghorn. A breed standard accepted by a show institution such as the APA is a completely different thing. That is what the term "standard weight" indicates. My mistake I will stay out of the discussion. .

Okay.

The California Grey has not been accepted by the APA. But every breed has to be established with standards before being accepted by an organization like the APA.

Every breed has standards, or by definition we can't call it a breed.