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he hardest thing to accept is that the MZBs, if we have to deal with them, are going to be your family, friends, associates, who come to YOUR place when things get tough.

We have had a few semi-tongue-in-cheek threads over on www.sufficientself.com and used zombies as a euphemism for your average clueless schmuck gone bad.

There is even a tread about family and what you would do when they show up on your doorstep if TSHTF. So yes, smart, prepared people HAVE considered what happens when a bunch of scared hungry people come upon you and yours.

Strategies include chasing off looters with high fire power, making your place look like it has already been looted and hiding, or putting the "zombies" to work ala Shawn of the Dead
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Everyone's situation and strategy in a melt down is going to be different and based on their resources, ruthlessness, and personal beliefs. Regardless, you do need to think about these things seriously.​
 
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We have had a few semi-tongue-in-cheek threads over on www.sufficientself.com and used zombies as a euphemism for your average clueless schmuck gone bad.

There is even a tread about family and what you would do when they show up on your doorstep if TSHTF. So yes, smart, prepared people HAVE considered what happens when a bunch of scared hungry people come upon you and yours.

Strategies include chasing off looters with high fire power, making your place look like it has already been looted and hiding, or putting the "zombies" to work ala Shawn of the Dead
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Everyone's situation and strategy in a melt down is going to be different and based on their resources, ruthlessness, and personal beliefs. Regardless, you do need to think about these things seriously.

I'd hope that around here people would have the sense to be patient and learn to plant and grow food from folks like us. Can't be sure, though - that's why we have a shotgun.
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Of course, one thing I've thought of, too, is that we could seek out some friends of ours with 10 acres and a crapload of firepower. Since we're not clueless in the ways of gardening and livestock raising, we wouldn't be leeches, and there would be safety in numbers.

Yes, I think about this kind of thing. I also try to figure out how I would survive in a zombie invasion or a nuclear war. I'm weird like that.
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http://www.pbs.org/wnet/frontierhouse/
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/colonialhouse/

PBS ran 2 different ones. Great to watch. You may be able to get them from netflix.

I saw something similar it was a bunch of different families a young newly married couple a couple with a few kids from different walks of life. One family just did not get it, the dad was just to lazy to really make it work he did the jobs half way. I never saw all of the episodes I don't have cable anymore I would have loved to the the frontier house one.
 
I hope that at times of crises, we all, wherever we live, remember that national cohesion is what pulls a community through the bad times. Looking back into history, we see that during the most awful times, such as plague epidemics etc, villages pooled their resources and cared for one another, often without thought for their own safety. During WW2, when the population were facing dire hardship, they still shared what little they had, especially with strangers. This we know as the 'Spirit of the Blitz'. I think we can all look to the people of Japan, who through this appalling tragedy that has befallen them, have on an individual, and national basis conducted themselves with dignity and courage. No queue jumping, no pushing and shoving, no looting and definitely no shotguns!
 
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This may have depended on where you lived my family raised its own food back then as well, when prohibition was going on my uncles made pretty decent "shine" when rationing was going on for some in the country they traded alcohol for whatever it was they needed the gov thought should be rationed the rationing only applied to those not adept enough to work around it. Kina like the food stamp / EBT scams that are happening now, the most common one the holder of the food stamp card selling $50 of groceries for $20 cash it happens a lot here nothing here was shared a lot was and is sold for quiet a premium the black market is alive and thriving here LOL as it was in WW II the more the Gov regulates the healthier the black market becomes LOL . I have a hard time understanding why folks pay stores for something they can raise/make themselves. I lived "in the city" for about a year ounce it was all I could stand I had a garden and back in the day in Norfolk you could have a coupla chickens until a complaint came so I had fresh eggs too from a coupla banties but I had to leave after about 10-11 months and get back to the marsh/woods LOL yea it def depends on where you live cause everybody owns shotguns here LOL and most know how to use them me am I fond of a wickedly sharp " hawk"
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particularly the "Vietnam hawk"
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One thing that was different in Japan than in the U.S. during tragedies is here the cops leave town along with everyone else (watts riot, Katrina etc.) in japan the law remained in place.
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I think you'll find that it is not the Law that keeps the people of Japan from running riot in the 'every man for himself', attitude that we see elsewhere in times of sudden hardship. It is their own innate sense of pride and decency, their respect for each other and ultimately their society.

As for rationing, it can result in a black market, but most people in my experience, don't approve of the black market and are quite willing to report the black marketeers to the authorities. Regarding rationing, it was very strict here in WW2. Meat rationing allowed each person 4 oz a week, butter was 2 oz, cheese was also 2 oz. Sugar was rationed to 3 oz per person a week, but in the soft fruit season, each person was allowed 2 pound to make jam with. Eggs were rationed to 2 per person per week. Of course many people kept hens, for eggs and some were able to hunt rabbits. They shared what they could grow with those who weren't able to grow anything, and rabbits were made into pies which were shared with neighbours. Everyone put what they could on one side for the children.

People helped each other and kept each other's spirits up all through the long years of war. No law made them do it, I guess they were just more decent people than we who hae come after them. A sad indictment of our societies.
 
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And people say WWII helped the economy...
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Gotta admit, in a rationing situation, I'd happily protect members of the black market - provided, of course, that they weren't stealing or violating others' rights in some way. Government rationing, IMHO, is utterly ridiculous and a violation of all common sense and reason.
 
Government rationing makes sure that government people don't do without.

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