International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

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@kfelton0002
he is gorgeous to look @ .
perfect body type
perfect copper quality need more quantity .
perfect tail .
perfect plumage type and quality ,coulour too .pure black
gorgeous legs size and coulour well feathered too
lovely head and red face .
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Perfect .need no comment .the most complete bird .
half sister to SW from Duke Sire side
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Prince .
correct body type a back could be longer .
correct head ,face .comb ,wattles .eyes .the best cockerel head you ever produced .true rustic marans type .
correct tail .
good copper quality .

need shoulder marking and more lancet colouring .

he is half brother to Perfect .through they Dam Queen .

with those 3 birds you can breed many many line ,wonderfull line .you do no need 100 chooks to produce a perfect bird .

I have been looking @ them for last 1 hour , they complete each other so much .you have body type ,body pattern .comb ,head ,tail ,mass ,eyes ,
Faults to breed out . Split wing ,combs .

Prince X Perfect = cockerels line
SW X Perfect = pullets line .
or other way around .the progeny will tell .wich way is a best to work with .
some back crossing to Perfect to fix the body patern .she is the one going to help you put a correct amount of copper in your future chooks .

chooks man
 
20191028_080626-jpg.1949359

@kfelton0002
he is gorgeous to look @ .
perfect body type
perfect copper quality need more quantity .
perfect tail .
perfect plumage type and quality ,coulour too .pure black
gorgeous legs size and coulour well feathered too
lovely head and red face .
20191020_135843-jpg.1949675

Perfect .need no comment .the most complete bird .
half sister to SW from Duke Sire side
20190529_173700-jpg.1949712

Prince .
correct body type a back could be longer .
correct head ,face .comb ,wattles .eyes .the best cockerel head you ever produced .true rustic marans type .
correct tail .
good copper quality .

need shoulder marking and more lancet colouring .

he is half brother to Perfect .through they Dam Queen .

with those 3 birds you can breed many many line ,wonderfull line .you do no need 100 chooks to produce a perfect bird .

I have been looking @ them for last 1 hour , they complete each other so much .you have body type ,body pattern .comb ,head ,tail ,mass ,eyes ,
Faults to breed out . Split wing ,combs .

Prince X Perfect = cockerels line
SW X Perfect = pullets line .
or other way around .the progeny will tell .wich way is a best to work with .
some back crossing to Perfect to fix the body patern .she is the one going to help you put a correct amount of copper in your future chooks .

chooks man

Sounds good! You've made me feel better for sure! I thought I was going to have to cull SW and I was hating the thought. I literally felt sick when I realized he had split wing. Thank you for putting my mind at ease and I can still carefully breed him and attempt to eliminate the SW.
 
20191028_080626-jpg.1949359

@kfelton0002
he is gorgeous to look @ .
perfect body type
perfect copper quality need more quantity .
perfect tail .
perfect plumage type and quality ,coulour too .pure black
gorgeous legs size and coulour well feathered too
lovely head and red face .
20191020_135843-jpg.1949675

Perfect .need no comment .the most complete bird .
half sister to SW from Duke Sire side
20190529_173700-jpg.1949712

Prince .
correct body type a back could be longer .
correct head ,face .comb ,wattles .eyes .the best cockerel head you ever produced .true rustic marans type .
correct tail .
good copper quality .

need shoulder marking and more lancet colouring .

he is half brother to Perfect .through they Dam Queen .

with those 3 birds you can breed many many line ,wonderfull line .you do no need 100 chooks to produce a perfect bird .

I have been looking @ them for last 1 hour , they complete each other so much .you have body type ,body pattern .comb ,head ,tail ,mass ,eyes ,
Faults to breed out . Split wing ,combs .

Prince X Perfect = cockerels line
SW X Perfect = pullets line .
or other way around .the progeny will tell .wich way is a best to work with .
some back crossing to Perfect to fix the body patern .she is the one going to help you put a correct amount of copper in your future chooks .

chooks man

Thank you so much for your feedback. I look forward to working with them this year and see what they'll produce. :)
 
Sounds good! You've made me feel better for sure! I thought I was going to have to cull SW and I was hating the thought. I literally felt sick when I realized he had split wing. Thank you for putting my mind at ease and I can still carefully breed him and attempt to eliminate the SW.

i will not let you cull a cockerel off this type even if he had horns never mind Split wing .it is just a problem like others ,just SOP make the things sound terrible DQ .
clean leg is DQ but it is the easiest thing to fix .
SOP talk about show chooks .they never describle the breeders .we as breeders .we have to find way to produce show birds quality .
we are breeders ,so we are the one who decide what to breed in and what to breed out .the SOP tell us what they like to be achieved but they don t tell us how .they only tell us DQ.
we are trying to breed breeders first .The parents stock .when we achieve that ,we start breeding show quality birds .no DQ no any other fault .
for the time been ,we have to work with what we have .
chooks man
 

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