International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[winterhorses]

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[winterhorses]

How old are they? I don't know anything about Birchens, but I do love the contrasting colors! Keep us posted on their development!

 

[baunlee]

~6 months!

 

[KF0002]

well now we truly have gone off on a tangent. In the spirit of this, now seems like a good time to post pictures of my birchen pair. I posted these in the birchen thread and someone asked me to also share here. These are the only 2 birchens I have, which is unsettling, in the sense that one incident could turn things off course for me. It's like the guy knows it because he has been doing this disappearing act and roosting somewhere at night that isnt in the coop area; yet, when morning comes he's with the group. Definitely pulling out all the stops for my attention and it's working. I don't know anything about birchens. I picked the eggs up from a person who shows coppers and birchens. I was there to get the coppers and took 3 of the birchens. Luckily 2 made it AND one female and one male. such luck! I still have a lot to learn with these though. Many of the birchen males seem to have tails and backs that drop off like a cliff, though mine isn't too horrible, I was still a bit surprised he was given a good review on the birchen thread.

I love the look of birchens. Very nice birds. Lucky you on your pair! If you cockerel isnt roosting with the others at night you may want to pen him up since you only have the pair. Or at least find where he is roosting and move him to the coop until he gets with the program. It would be a shame to lose him to a varmint. There is always one that wants to be defiant. Lol.

 

[Chooks man]

Thanks so much for your insightful feedback, as always! I really appreciate you taking the time to comment!

I'm still new to chicken genetics, so I'm not sure how all the colors work. The person I got them from said they were lavender - should I be upset? I think these two are either parents or relatives of mine.




This is what they had on their site about the splits:
"Black split to Lavender Marans chicks. We are currently breeding the Lavender Marans with Little Peddler French Black Copper Marans to improve the egg coloring to reach the desired, highly sought after chocolate egg coloring. These chicks would be considered projects and when breed back to each other should yield a percentage of Lavender chicks."

I asked about the birchen color and was told something about the lavender diluting the copper...?

if was a diluted copper than the cockerel should have a orange colored shoulder and straw like hackle and lancet .

they seem pure silver to me .
plus the marans chooks breed has it got the Lav gene , never heard about it or seen it in the marans population .

I can not work out witch way they did the crossing with LP BCM line

where they got they Lav gene from .I m certain the marans genome has not a Lav gene . 100%

they have all the pure marans trait that what bothering me .So how far away was the crossing done to introduce the Lav gene?
I ll love to know that .

ask them all this question for me please

any way they are sublime .
i ll call that color a diluted blue a washed out blue . gene well known to exist in the marans population .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

well now we truly have gone off on a tangent. In the spirit of this, now seems like a good time to post pictures of my birchen pair. I posted these in the birchen thread and someone asked me to also share here. These are the only 2 birchens I have, which is unsettling, in the sense that one incident could turn things off course for me. It's like the guy knows it because he has been doing this disappearing act and roosting somewhere at night that isnt in the coop area; yet, when morning comes he's with the group. Definitely pulling out all the stops for my attention and it's working. I don't know anything about birchens. I picked the eggs up from a person who shows coppers and birchens. I was there to get the coppers and took 3 of the birchens. Luckily 2 made it AND one female and one male. such luck! I still have a lot to learn with these though. Many of the birchen males seem to have tails and backs that drop off like a cliff, though mine isn't too horrible, I was still a bit surprised he was given a good review on the birchen thread.

thank you for posting them here .I was waiting for them .
very interesting point you highlighted here .
we are saying all the birchen cockerel have a sloppy back and lower tail .

I can see your cockerel how is holding him self .is he always like that or some time his tail is up?

they have a great body type ,great mass too .
i love a pure silver they showing

the pullet seem to have a nice and correct tail .

some more photos of the cockerel from different angle .
i m interested on him .i need to understand why the back is sloppy ?

cheers.
chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

this are gorgeous looking eggs well uniform . Bravo to the breeder. they look like they come out of the fridge . well clean .

can you please ask the breeder what sort of nest materiel is using ( hope is not Egyptian cotton ) no a single crutch .

impressed .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

I've got two OEs that are half CCL. I think their black crests make them look a little demented, lol.

I don like the black one .
I like the partridge looking one with a black crest gorgeous looking . demented but cute

I had one like her couple years ago without a crest . a Fox got her .wasn t happy about it . never had that color pattern showed up again . bloody fox .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

I got them from Chicken Ridge Farm. http://www.chickenridgefarm.com/lavender-marans.html

I saw they web site . Lav marans . seem there is a few breeder in the USA.

where they got the gene Lav from ?

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

Thanks for the heads up about the thigh fluff! Is that something I can fix with good pullets?

yeah every thing is fixable .

mate him to the hens with nice feathers free from fluff .

i m having a same problem with a fluff in my Birchen line .but it is workable .

chooks man