International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[Red Banks]

I m waiting for Tony2 photos .please .

I have been offering you my expertise and I m really good at it .
I only asked for photos of your flock .nice photos ( working photo .no just going to the ward and take a few random photos .)

if you follow my advice you ll breed great marans strain ,any variety .. but it is up to you guys .

Tony2 is a improvement but you can not see it ,than nothing I can do to help you .
breeding chooks is a art no just rooster and hens mating /multiplying .

breeding chooks need plan and strategy . we need to know what we are breeding .what we are trying to correct or to breed true .we can t just wait for some magic to happen .

we have done well but you are not happy about it .those major faults are not going just to go away by them selves .

you bred nice pullets .far I m concern you pullets line is ready to rock when the pullets are ready to breed .no far off . you only need 2/3 very nice pullets not a truck load . selective breeding only the best goes forward to breed .

now you need one nice cockerel to mate to your best hens not all of them ,only the one with a good comb and tail even just one hen will be enough .

all the best my friend .
Don t give Tony2 away like you did with Claude . that will be too many mistake in a short time .

chooks man

@Chooks man
No No my friend. I love your help and believe in all you tell me. We have done well and I could never have done it without you. Look where I started. You are the reason for any success I have. I want to work on my major faults, my birds and my own! I need your help. I always recognized your knowledge and what a wonderful mentor you are. I just meant it would be nice to have someone to stand in my yard and chat about my birds.

I will post pics of Tony2. If you think he is that good I will certainly keep him.

 

[Chooks man]

So envious of those tails!

Thank you @kfelton0002 .
those traits where not there when I started 4 years ago .
I started with Black hens, bent comb .white earlobes etc.......... light egg color .
now I have many many line to work with all made in my farms ,bred by me ,only bought few key roosters last 2 years .( Djabel and Zambezi) .

now that I established the body type . body carriage and the eggs colors .I have to more to the detail .sleeking up the chooks . eys color/ comb type. wattle type etc ..........

one step at the time .

now I know all my hens ,what they throw .what they carries as recessive every thing about they genetic make up .

from now on ,wil be easy ride .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

Antonio really messed up Tony2s comb fighting - Tony2

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I don t see the problem with Tony2

Ok his tail is not that great but is mile better than his Sire Antonio.

the good thing far I m concern is his comb . you did a magic leap . his comb is almost perfect .
breed him just for that .
Tony2 over your best hens . best tail . that is your cockerels line . nice Comb line.
Antonio over his best pullets . that is your pullets line .great type and body color .nice tail

one more spare cockerel .

if you do that .than the next progeny will be great .a lot to select from .a lot correct bird .
pick the best of each line and cross them together . to blind all the good traits you are willing to breed .

I like Tony2 . nice body color and great comb .what else I need from the Roo .

chooks man

 

[Red Banks]

I don t see the problem with Tony2

Ok his tail is not that great but is mile better than his Sire Antonio.

the good thing far I m concern is his comb . you did a magic leap . his comb is almost perfect .
breed him just for that .
Tony2 over your best hens . best tail . that is your cockerels line . nice Comb line.
Antonio over his best pullets . that is your pullets line .great type and body color .nice tail

one more spare cockerel .

if you do that .than the next progeny will be great .a lot to select from .a lot correct bird .
pick the best of each line and cross them together . to blind all the good traits you are willing to breed .

I like Tony2 . nice body color and great comb .what else I need from the Roo .

chooks man

Thanks I will follow your plan.

 

[Chooks man]

Thanks I will follow your plan.

if you follow my plan you ll end up having the best BCM line in the country .

2 breeding pens. 2/3 pullets/hens in each pen . plus your layer pen with a spare cockerel .very simple .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

@RedBanks

I never give away a cockerel with comb like that .. he has fault .so what it is not the end of the world .
the way I see it ,he is a improvement . that is plus plus in my book .
we can not fix all the fault in one generation .other wise every human been will be chooks breeder .
even his tail is better than Antonio .still high but @ 75Dg angle not 90.

you done well .you have to appreciate you work my friend.

chooks man

 

[KF0002]

Antonio really messed up Tony2s comb fighting - Tony2

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My boys fight too.. its nothing serious, just a bloody comb here and there. Tony2 is still a nice looking bird. His only drawback really is his tail, like you said. I agree with Chooks man, if you breed him to your best tailed hens you can really bring that tail angle down.

 

[Hensndoes]

Happy day! Just ordered my chicks. Can't wait! Won't get them until last week of march so guess I better get on that 2nd coop. I only ordered 5 marans for this go. And a few types for fun eggs. And a few black partridge silkies. Really want a broody and couldn't help myself. Crazy. 2 years ago I'd get so annoyed when a hen went broody. Now I'm annoyed she hasn't yet and I'm going to have to do the work.

 

[Chooks man]

Happy day! Just ordered my chicks. Can't wait! Won't get them until last week of march so guess I better get on that 2nd coop. I only ordered 5 marans for this go. And a few types for fun eggs. And a few black partridge silkies. Really want a broody and couldn't help myself. Crazy. 2 years ago I'd get so annoyed when a hen went broody. Now I'm annoyed she hasn't yet and I'm going to have to do the work.

well happy for you .
nothing can beat the mama broody hen . she always does a great job for free .
I m heading that direction too .have many broody hens this time .all bred from one hen ,Scandinavia Birchen .

good luck with your order

chooks man

 

[Red Banks]

I am always so busy studying the cockerels that I did not notice one of the pullets is cow hocked, knock kneed or whatever you call it in chickens. She is a nice big pullet but her legs form a triangle. Picture today sometime just a busy morning. Definitely not a breeder.