International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[winterhorses]

Hello everyone!

I haven't been able to check posts for a few weeks due to being so busy and have so much reading to catch up on! I'm currently enjoying watching my Lavender Marans babies grow up (they're 2 months now) and wishing the 3 BCM chicks I got hadn't all turned out to be boys.

That said, any recommendations for breeders with consistently good pullets? I need some girls to breed with Pinky Pie since none of my six are close to SOP. I'd love to get my hands on layers, but will take younger pullets or even (sigh) hatching eggs.

Any thoughts on what characteristics I should be looking for to mesh with Pinky's?

Thanks!

(Here's a reminder of Pinky, though I need to get more recent shots since he has a little more copper now.)

 

[harmesonfarm]

Welcome to the thread. We have a great group. Many breeders advertise writing that the eggs they have pictured were from earlier in their season. As they say...... the hen ran out of ink. Hens that lay eggs every day will have lighter eggs than hens that lay less often. The longer between eggs the darker the egg. I don't think it is age as much as frequency and intervals between eggs. I could be wrong, others will chime in if I am. I recently had a very dark egg, darkest I have ever seen from my chickens..... it has never been repeated. What number were the hatching eggs on the color chart?

eggs hatched were a 3-4, in photos looked more like a 5 or 6.

That makes sense about the "ink", it was near the end of the laying "season" (in the fall) when I purchased the eggs, so perhaps that was why. Thanks for the answer!

Welcome . you found your way .
it is international here .So we don t have apply the American SOP .
we go here with the original the French SOP and the French way of breeding the marans chooks .
they have breeding them for over 200 years .so they must know what they are talking about

chooks man

haha, yes I did make my way here... Hopefully i don't devil too deep into genetics land too early...

 

[Chooks man]

Hello everyone!

I haven't been able to check posts for a few weeks due to being so busy and have so much reading to catch up on! I'm currently enjoying watching my Lavender Marans babies grow up (they're 2 months now) and wishing the 3 BCM chicks I got hadn't all turned out to be boys.

That said, any recommendations for breeders with consistently good pullets? I need some girls to breed with Pinky Pie since none of my six are close to SOP. I'd love to get my hands on layers, but will take younger pullets or even (sigh) hatching eggs.

Any thoughts on what characteristics I should be looking for to mesh with Pinky's?

Thanks!

(Here's a reminder of Pinky, though I need to get more recent shots since he has a little more copper now.)

Pinky is so gorgeous and correct in many aspect .I think you can breed him to the duck and still get BCM from him .

you can breed him to any black copper/blue copper/Splash copper and you will get good proportion of his progeny with a nice conformation .
Keep a nice pullet from him and mate them back to him and you will get some gorgeous looking BCM .

if I had him I ll breed a line from him and I ll keep matting his females progeny back to him tell he die .

Chooks man

 

[Chicken1961]

I have a baby chicken 3wks who seems to have wry neck got told to try berroca in water as its a vitamin deficency. Gunna give it a go and will try make sure she eas before I go to work and when I get home. I ve seen a few posts that say try vitamin e capsules might try them too.. hope it works

 

[Red Banks]

Hello everyone!

I haven't been able to check posts for a few weeks due to being so busy and have so much reading to catch up on! I'm currently enjoying watching my Lavender Marans babies grow up (they're 2 months now) and wishing the 3 BCM chicks I got hadn't all turned out to be boys.

That said, any recommendations for breeders with consistently good pullets? I need some girls to breed with Pinky Pie since none of my six are close to SOP. I'd love to get my hands on layers, but will take younger pullets or even (sigh) hatching eggs.

Any thoughts on what characteristics I should be looking for to mesh with Pinky's?

Thanks!

(Here's a reminder of Pinky, though I need to get more recent shots since he has a little more copper now.)

This is one of the prettiest cockerels I have ever seen. You already know though that I covet Pinky! Did we see your hens? Post some pics! Are the hens from the same line? I would use what I have if I was in your situation. You can fix what is wrong with the hens by breeding to him. What is it you don't like about them?

 

[Red Banks]

I have been so busy with the shop, chickens and clearing land. The new field is almost ready. It used to be planted in pines. Brush country, the quail loved it. The chickens never used to go in this field now they are there every day.



I went out to take pics of the field and ended up taking some pictures just for fun of the flock.
Cuckoo Marans with no feathers, one of the BCM pullets and an Ameraucana.



This is not a Cuckoo but it is the pullet that made a believer out of me. Reading what Chooks man writes is certainly the best thing that ever happened in my chicken life but it was still hard to believe just how easy it is to change your chickens. Dogs, horses it takes generations and the generations are slow. You can change a chicken in 21 days. The pullet pictured below is a cross between a Bielefelder (German B-la-fell-der) and a Marans hen. Could have been a BBS or BCM. Anyway yellow legs on the Rooster and no leg feathers. I have two of these girls exactly alike. Both with white skin and feathers. My real Cuckoos have no feathers and Chooks man told me not to worry about it feathers are easy to fix. He is right....... feathers can be fixed in 21 days.



And here is Antonio enjoying the day with one of his pullets. Chickens know how to live in the present moment!

 

[OneMountainAcres]

I have a baby chicken 3wks who seems to have wry neck got told to try berroca in water as its a vitamin deficency. Gunna give it a go and will try make sure she eas before I go to work and when I get home. I ve seen a few posts that say try vitamin e capsules might try them too.. hope it works

Try using vitamin E and selenium. It works wonders.

 

[Red Banks]

Quote: On this thread "genetics" are easier to understand.

 

[Chooks man]

On this thread "genetics" are easier to understand.

RedBank Genetic is a complex thing ,even the scientist disagree all the time .

the old days people bred a wonderful chooks without knowing any thing about genetic ,BUT they had a time and keen eyes for a good looking and well bred chooks .

we need to balance our chooks and move them to the right direction slowly .

No need to know genetic..
I deal with the geneticist all the time .I even pay them to work for me . they don t seem to make they mind . always split result . too many theories in they brain .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

I have been so busy with the shop, chickens and clearing land. The new field is almost ready. It used to be planted in pines. Brush country, the quail loved it. The chickens never used to go in this field now they are there every day.



I went out to take pics of the field and ended up taking some pictures just for fun of the flock.
Cuckoo Marans with no feathers, one of the BCM pullets and an Ameraucana.



This is not a Cuckoo but it is the pullet that made a believer out of me. Reading what Chooks man writes is certainly the best thing that ever happened in my chicken life but it was still hard to believe just how easy it is to change your chickens. Dogs, horses it takes generations and the generations are slow. You can change a chicken in 21 days. The pullet pictured below is a cross between a Bielefelder (German B-la-fell-der) and a Marans hen. Could have been a BBS or BCM. Anyway yellow legs on the Rooster and no leg feathers. I have two of these girls exactly alike. Both with white skin and feathers. My real Cuckoos have no feathers and Chooks man told me not to worry about it feathers are easy to fix. He is right....... feathers can be fixed in 21 days.



And here is Antonio enjoying the day with one of his pullets. Chickens know how to live in the present moment!

nice field and pretty chooks .

a lot trees and well flat land .

Antonio is loving his life .pretty hen/pullet with him .

nice to see the chooks out doing they thing .

chooks man