International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[winterhorses]

Nooooo!!! Why did you have to flop your comb babe, why?!

He looks young; maybe there's still hope? One of mine had a floppy comb, and I was planning on culling it, but just a few days ago, it started to stand upright again! I had no idea that could happen.

 

[winterhorses]

Ugh, what a horrible hatch I'm having! I was holding out hope for that batch of dirty Lavender Ameraucana eggs I received, and despite 2 blood rings and a stink bomb, 5 seemed to be developing alright. The first hatched well, and the second seemed to be doing okayat first, but a few hours later, it died.

The third got stuck midway through zipping, and after about 8 hours, I finally pulled it out. It was a mess! Its right knee (the part up near the body) wouldn't flex, its toes were curled, and there was an odd bone protrusion under the skin on its back. No idea what was going on there. Anyhow, I had to put it down, which is never a fun thing to do.

The two other eggs are in the bator. One pipped at the wrong end, and I'm waiting to see if can make it out on its own. The other egg is peeping, but no pip yet. The shell has always looked weird though (strangely porous/wet-looking) so I'm not betting on it being okay.

If the healthy one is a female, and that's all I get, I'll still be somewhat satisfied. I'm just trying to decide if I should make an issue of this with the breeder.

 

[Lincityfarmette]

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sorry to hear about your rooster . what wrong with him exactly . he is not drinking that all or there is other thing wrong with him . if you are forcing him to drink than make sure add some sugar in it . chooks man

thanks for information. This is what is wrong: suddenly laying down a lot 2 days ago. Seemed to be limping. No apparent injury. By next day not getting up. Last night convulsions. Not eating on own. Held him most of the night playing whole tones music for healing. Duramycin in water as well as natural things like garlic. Adding sugar today. The music and being wrapped in my arms with prayer stopped convulsions. Still weak and not able to stand today.

 

[Lincityfarmette]

Chooks Man, congratulations on your 2017 Blue Boy hatchling!!!! Excited to see pics when they come!!! I am happy For you my friend across the earth! I would stay up all night for them too. I still get excited over my colorful egg basket. My silver cuckoos lay dark eggs but it seems my Double Laced Barnvelders are darker. Rooben eating on his own but still refuses to drink. No standing up.

 

[Chooks man]

Chooks Man, congratulations on your 2017 Blue Boy hatchling!!!! Excited to see pics when they come!!! I am happy For you my friend across the earth! I would stay up all night for them too. I still get excited over my colorful egg basket. My silver cuckoos lay dark eggs but it seems my Double Laced Barnvelders are darker. Rooben eating on his own but still refuses to drink. No standing up.

give him a time to recover .if he start eating than he is getting better .

my Bib Blue old rooster had a cold and went to his corner and curled up for 2 week .he was in bad shape but I couldn t put him down he is rare specimen .So I left him a lone in his corner .

after 2 weeks he start moving around and eating a little . now after 5 week he is all good and trying to get back to his pen .

worm place free from draft and left alone , that what they need some time .

good luck with him .he ll get better .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

thanks for information. This is what is wrong: suddenly laying down a lot 2 days ago. Seemed to be limping. No apparent injury. By next day not getting up. Last night convulsions. Not eating on own. Held him most of the night playing whole tones music for healing. Duramycin in water as well as natural things like garlic. Adding sugar today. The music and being wrapped in my arms with prayer stopped convulsions. Still weak and not able to stand today.

you sound like my friend in Sydney .
She is the one who used to hold Rocky ( very nasty BCM rooster ) and play music to him and giving a healing thing.
she said he is a trouble spirit need help . she took him to her place in the end of the day .he still there .very good with her .
still mad to others any way but very gentle with her . some people are very glassed I think .

chooks man

 

[Lincityfarmette]

Thanks for sharing about your roo. I will try to leave our Rooben to himself except for feeding and watering time. I really do not want to lose him.

I understand some think of EE's as mutts, but I don't. They are often mixed but seem to have their own nobility anyway. And I understand that Auracana and Amaraucana are descendants of EE's not the other way around. These Chooks...they get under your skin and into your heart.

 

[KF0002]

Very nice egg color!! She's going in the right direction. Congrats!

Thank you! Hope keep keeps up the trend and it gets a shade darker each day. lol

 

[KF0002]

Ugh, what a horrible hatch I'm having! I was holding out hope for that batch of dirty Lavender Ameraucana eggs I received, and despite 2 blood rings and a stink bomb, 5 seemed to be developing alright. The first hatched well, and the second seemed to be doing okayat first, but a few hours later, it died.

The third got stuck midway through zipping, and after about 8 hours, I finally pulled it out. It was a mess! Its right knee (the part up near the body) wouldn't flex, its toes were curled, and there was an odd bone protrusion under the skin on its back. No idea what was going on there. Anyhow, I had to put it down, which is never a fun thing to do.

The two other eggs are in the bator. One pipped at the wrong end, and I'm waiting to see if can make it out on its own. The other egg is peeping, but no pip yet. The shell has always looked weird though (strangely porous/wet-looking) so I'm not betting on it being okay.

If the healthy one is a female, and that's all I get, I'll still be somewhat satisfied. I'm just trying to decide if I should make an issue of this with the breeder.

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I would probably express my concerns about the eggs. And the poor hatch rates. A responsible breeder wouldn't send dirty, porous, or weird shaped eggs. Or pullet eggs. My neighbor just paid dearly for lavender english orphington eggs and 90% of them were very obviously pullet eggs. I'm incubating some of them as we speak.

If you're lucky and the breeder has any bit of a conscience, they may send replacements. It's worth a shot. There is always a gamble with shipped eggs, that is a line I'm sure you have heard. However, a good breeder gives the buyer the best shot they can by sending fresh, nice sized and shaped eggs that are nonporous, and clean but unwashed. You should have gotten at least a 30-50% hatch rate (that's always the absolute best I hope for with shipped eggs).

I would be upset if I were in your situation, and yes I have been there done that with ordering eggs. Communicate with the breeder and hopefully you will receive a second set. They may request you pay shipping which is fair I guess. If their ad said anything about the eggs' condition they would be sending (ex. "will send eggs less than 3 days old, clean, nonporous," etc.) you could argue you didn't receive the eggs in the condition promised.

If they refuse to make the situation right, and they have a facebook or somewhere you can leave a bad review go that route (with pics). I'm so sorry you have gone through this. I know you were looking for lavender Ameraucanas, but Redbanks on here has Blue Ameraucanas. I'm sure she would hook you up. Her birds are beautiful and lay lovely blue eggs.

Here's hoping your little chicks are a male and female pair!

 

[winterhorses]

I would probably express my concerns about the eggs. And the poor hatch rates. A responsible breeder wouldn't send dirty, porous, or weird shaped eggs. Or pullet eggs. My neighbor just paid dearly for lavender english orphington eggs and 90% of them were very obviously pullet eggs. I'm incubating some of them as we speak.

If you're lucky and the breeder has any bit of a conscience, they may send replacements. It's worth a shot. There is always a gamble with shipped eggs, that is a line I'm sure you have heard. However, a good breeder gives the buyer the best shot they can by sending fresh, nice sized and shaped eggs that are nonporous, and clean but unwashed. You should have gotten at least a 30-50% hatch rate (that's always the absolutely best I hope for with shipped eggs).

I would be upset if I were in your situation, and yes I have been there done that with hatching eggs. Communicate with the breeder and hopefully you will receive a second set. They may request you pay shipping which is fair I suppose.

Otherwise, if they have a facebook or somewhere you can leave a bad review go that route (with pics). I'm so sorry you have gone through this. I know you were looking for lavender Ameraucanas, but Redbanks on here has Blue Ameraucanas. I'm sure she would hook you up. Her birds are beautiful and lay lovely blue eggs.

Here's hoping your little chicks are a male and female pair!

Good news: I just pulled out one malpositioned chick who was definitely done cooking, and it seems to be doing fine so far! That makes 2 out of 8 with 1 egg yet to go. I guess those are decent numbers, though up to this point, I'd been hatching about 80% with shipped eggs. I'm more peeved that she admitted they were poor quality but didn't make any sort of offer to send more if I had a bad hatch. At least I took pictures and documented everything.

As far as LavAm boys go, I definitely don't need any more, lol! I've already got two 7mo cockerels (down from 5). I'd be thrilled to buy a started pullet or hen if I could get my hands on even one.