International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[KF0002]

my pullet is still alive but not good. I gave her 3 shots of lincospectin (in 3 days) and last night about midnight I heard her hitting the dog crate. she was gasping for breath. I didn't expect to find her alive but she is.

the instruction says to give lincospectin shots for 3 days only (1 ml for 10 lb). can I extend this therapy for a day or two?

I'm not familiar with that particular drug, but from what I have just read the dose for the injectable form is 3 days, and 4-7 days for the water soluble powder form. From my experience though, when they start gasping for breath they don't likely make it. If she were mine, I would have culled her at that point to end her suffering. I'm so sorry you're going through all this. I know how heartbreaking it is to lose precious birds.

 

[chickengr]

I'm not familiar with that particular drug, but from what I have just read the dose for the injectable form is 3 days, and 4-7 days for the water soluble powder form. From my experience though, when they start gasping for breath they don't likely make it. If she were mine, I would have culled her at that point to end her suffering. I'm so sorry you're going through all this. I know how heartbreaking it is to lose precious birds.

thanks.

I called the shop I got the medicine from and their vet told me to stop. she is not gasping any more but she is not eating either. it can be a side effect from the medicine.

in my experience when they start gasping they usually die. but I have some survivors too. as I don't cull and there is no one around to do it she will live till her last breath. I syringed her water with honey and vitamins and noticed that her throat is less swollen.

 

[Chooks man]

Here are a few pictures I took of my Red Banks babies. They are hard to photograph in the big kid pen all running around with the others in there. There are two cockerels and two pullets. One cockerel is a lot smaller than the dominant cockerel, but definitely a cockerel. They are very plump and healthy birds. The biggest cockerel is very well colored, lots of copper leakage on the breast. He will definitely put lovely hackles on his daughters with all that coloring. The smallest cockerel has been trying to fight the bigger boys so his comb is a little banged up today. They're fine though, just boys being boys.

In this first pic, the biggest Red Banks cockerel is the bird on the right, I will call him Marcus. The bird on the left is an Olive Egger pullet.

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Here is a closeup of Marcus. I love the posterior lobe of his comb, how smooth the back of it is with no splits or ridges. He has a double point at the front of his comb, but overall his comb is lovely! His comb has 5 points. The comb is not twisted or lopped over. How is my assessment of his comb @Chooks man ?
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Here is Marcus again from the side view, one of his sisters is standing behind him.
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Here is the second cockerel, I will call him Spartacus because he is a little scrapper and likes to pick fights, note the blood on his comb. His breast appears like it will be solid black as he matures. I couldn't get a better pic of him than this one. He is a fast little bugger.
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Marcos comb is right on the money . you done well . I can t see the double point on the front of his comb .

he is a big boy .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

thanks.

I called the shop I got the medicine from and their vet told me to stop. she is not gasping any more but she is not eating either. it can be a side effect from the medicine.

in my experience when they start gasping they usually die. but I have some survivors too. as I don't cull and there is no one around to do it she will live till her last breath. I syringed her water with honey and vitamins and noticed that her throat is less swollen.

3 day s is enough for the injected medication .

hope she is doing OK .

chooks man

 

[Red Banks]

@kfelton0002,

Nice looking chicks - good eye color, combs, type and plummage! Keep an eye on the smaller cockerel, slow maturing type, they quite often turnout to be better cockerels as long as the type is there to begin with. I’m taking nothing away from Marcus - big boy and well colored! I like the pullets too - nice hackle color!

Keith

So glad it isn't just me looking at this stock. I am looking forward to all feedback.

 

[KF0002]

Marcos comb is right on the money . you done well . I can t see the double point on the front of his comb .

he is a big boy .

chooks man

Red Banks deserves 100% of the credit. These are babies I hatched from eggs she sent me. They are Antonio's offspring.

Glad to hear Marcus doesnt have a double point. I think I am so used to seeing bad combs I cant look at a good comb without trying to find something wrong with it. Its such a relief to see a bird with a good comb.

Yes Marcus is a very big boy, the biggest in the bunch. Spartacus is the smallest but I still have high hopes for him. I will get better pictures of Spartacus when I can.

 

[Red Banks]

Red Banks deserves 100% of the credit. These are babies I hatched from eggs she sent me. They are Antonio's offspring.

Glad to hear Marcus doesnt have a double point. I think I am so used to seeing bad combs I cant look at a good comb without trying to find something wrong with it. Its such a relief to see a bird with a good comb.

Yes Marcus is a very big boy, the biggest in the bunch. Spartacus is the smallest but I still have high hopes for him. I will get better pictures of Spartacus when I can.

Thanks Kayla. I have a good comb on Tony2 (except for the fight damage). Are both Marcus and Spartacus from me? I have to post pics of Tony2. He looks good. He did have a white feather but now he shows no sign of white. Hoping to rid the line of that too. He went from a skinny lanky cockerel to a massive cockerel.

 

[KF0002]

Thanks Kayla. I have a good comb on Tony2 (except for the fight damage). Are both Marcus and Spartacus from me? I have to post pics of Tony2. He looks good. He did have a white feather but now he shows no sign of white. Hoping to rid the line of that too. He went from a skinny lanky cockerel to a massive cockerel.

Yes Spartacus is from you also. Marcus and Spartacus are like daylight and dark. Marcus is very laid back and calm, and Spartacus is constantly picking fights with the bigger meat cockerels. He hold his own though! Spartacus is small and dark, Marcus is big and very well colored. I need to get some better closeup pics of Spartacus. It's raining here today so maybe on the next clear day.

Glad to hear Tony is bulking up. I love a big beefy cockerel. Since the breed is a dual or general purpose breed, you want them to be nice and meaty. That is something I hope your birds will help with in my birds. Mine need more breast to give them a meatier look.

That will also come in very handy when it comes time to eat the culls.

 

[Red Banks]

Yes Spartacus is from you also. Marcus and Spartacus are like daylight and dark. Marcus is very laid back and calm, and Spartacus is constantly picking fights with the bigger meat cockerels. He hold his own though! Spartacus is small and dark, Marcus is big and very well colored. I need to get some better closeup pics of Spartacus. It's raining here today so maybe on the next clear day.

Glad to hear Tony is bulking up. I love a big beefy cockerel. Since the breed is a dual or general purpose breed, you want them to be nice and meaty. That is something I hope your birds will help with in my birds. Mine need more breast to give them a meatier look.

That will also come in very handy when it comes time to eat the culls.

It sounds like your birds are like mine. I have some very small birds in this hatch and some very big ones, especially the pullets. I will post some pictures. I wish you had more. It is so hard for me because these are the only BCM I ever see so I appreciate all the "descriptions" about this line. The good and the bad.

 

[KF0002]

I am very happy with this chick I hatched last week from Apollo and Zanitta. I love her hatch down! That makes 3 chicks from this pair so far. And of course the polar vortex has put a stopper in all my Marans hens. No Marans eggs in over two weeks! I'm going through withdrawal!