International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[BlueTheBrahma]

my friend peoples out there speculate a lot .that is a problem we are having .
ost of my work is done with marans hatched 1000 and 1000 in last 10 years . I have taken lot and lot of note observed a lot of variation and traits expression .
I still finding more and more stuff as I m progressing deeper in marans breeding .
I m writing a book about them ,still have few chapters haven t finished yet .
chooks man

You really are an expert then! I think it’s great that you are documenting all this experience and sharing it to help such a special breed of Chooks. I’d love to read this book once you’re finished.

 

[wrathsfarm]

You really are an expert then! I think it’s great that you are documenting all this experience and sharing it to help such a special breed of Chooks. I’d love to read this book once you’re finished.

Totally agree with you.

 

[LaFleche]

I’d love to read this book once you’re finished

Me too.

 

[Chooks man]

You really are an expert then! I think it’s great that you are documenting all this experience and sharing it to help such a special breed of Chooks. I’d love to read this book once you’re finished.

I ll pen you in my list .peoples who will recieve hard copy .when the book is published . limitted edition .
I have taken over 120000 marans photos last 10 years .every thing I do or I have done is documented for my book. every aspect and every trait on marans is documented and photographed .no speculation in my work . I have paid few great mind student to help me study some traits too . I love my marans .
I m a third generation marans breeder ,after my mom and gran' ma .
chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

Me too.

thank you .
I love my marans the only chooks I know .
chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

Totally agree with you.

than kyou .when you love some thing you can do more of it without getting tired .
chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

Me too.

Totally agree with you.

You really are an expert then! I think it’s great that you are documenting all this experience and sharing it to help such a special breed of Chooks. I’d love to read this book once you’re finished.

I like your support . good place to have friend with a same passion for marans
chooks man

 

[Bantambird]

Thank you. If a dog eats birds - it won't stop right?

I didn't believe my neighbor who said my pup ate a few of his chickens. But this time - as a last resort - I tied the dead bird onto her neck and she ate what she could reach in a few hours. So that crazy plan didn't seem to work. Anyone tried that?

My livestock guardian Zeus is a Pyrenees/ Akbash cross ( both guardians) and he was early on trained not to mess with the poultry. My other dog, Apollo, he is an English Mastiff/ St Bernard cross, he was taught by me early on that the birds are my property and he is not to even look at them unless I tell him to. Young livestock guardians are still puppies, and can have puppy moments until they are 2 years old. I have found that to get the puppy energy out, Apollo and Zeus have regular playdates. They have both been boundary trained so they know where all the property borders are, I walked with them along the boundaries every day for several months, with verbal reprimand when they would find a place they thought they might escape. Zeus knows what animals he is to protect, and I give him an outlet for his puppy energy by either playing with him myself for a little while or putting Apollo out for a playdate. I try not to let other dogs interact with Zeus so he maintains aloofness with dogs outside the family. We also do basic command training, a dog that is 130 lbs (59 kilos) and an independent thinker like a livestock guardian needs to be able to be recalled if he corners a vagrant, or basic sit and down commands, let me handle his paws and tail. There were a few times where he tried playing with the poultry while he was under a year old, I spent a lot of time with him during that period, so I could catch and correct bad behavior. I am always mucking about in the farm yard anyways, the work never ends, so I just always kept an ear and an eye out while I was working outside. He tends to hang out near the poultry more than the goats now, because he tends to be where I am, but he is never so far from the goats that he couldn't charge out there if he heard something he didn't like. Dairy goats never roam real far.
Once he kills a bird, you will have to work with him closely to stop this. Livestock guardians will bond VERY close to their family, and if you are family, he will not want to disappoint you. Zeus takes verbal correction very much to heart and he tries to correct behavior fairly quickly, but for any dog, it will need consistency to correct once blood has been tasted. Good luck!

 

[BlueTheBrahma]

My copy of The British Poultry Standard is very old, I think the first edition they made once it was given that name. This is the picture for Marans (English type obviously) but I have some problems with it. I’m not a big fan of how the English standard changes them, but these pictures just don’t seem right. The tails are high and they seem too short in the body, with long legs.

I have a good idea of what a proper type should look like because I’ve learned from people on this thread, I’d just like to share this to show how even the British Poultry Club don’t seem to understand these birds.

When I eventually breed English types for show I think I’m going to try and keep as close to the proper type as I can while still meeting the standard described in the book.

 

[Chooks man]

View attachment 3631954My copy of The British Poultry Standard is very old, I think the first edition they made once it was given that name. This is the picture for Marans (English type obviously) but I have some problems with it. I’m not a big fan of how the English standard changes them, but these pictures just don’t seem right. The tails are high and they seem too short in the body, with long legs.

I have a good idea of what a proper type should look like because I’ve learned from people on this thread, I’d just like to share this to show how even the British Poultry Club don’t seem to understand these birds.

When I eventually breed English types for show I think I’m going to try and keep as close to the proper type as I can while still meeting the standard described in the book.

I m a 100% with you in this one .they are totaly different type .
I m working with English import marans so I can tell the difference between them ..but saying that the English silver cuckoo marans lay very dark egg .it is the variety that help me put a dark eggs into my marans when I created a silver .golden cuckoo and silver /golden wheaten .in 2016 ,they cross well with a Frensh type with a little selection .

chooks man