Is there such birds?

[ameraucanacrazy]

Do any of yall know of anyone with partridge, lavender, and mottled bantam Cochins in Georgia.

 

[TurtleFeathers]

(double post - my apologies!)

 

[TurtleFeathers]

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It depends on the term "Lavender" and the person you ask. To me no, you can not have a "Lavender" mottled fowl.
"Lavender" is what's known as Self Blue, Self Color by APA definition is: A single uniform color throughout the plumage, as in Black and White varieties.
So a Self Blue ("Lavender") should be a single uniform Blue throughout the plumage, now by adding Mottling you no longer have a Self colored fowl and no longer a Self Blue ("Lavender") color.
In my eyes if you would add Mottling to a "Lavender" colored fowl that color would now be a Blue Mottled.

Chris

Good point, Chris.

But, by the same token, lavender (aka "Self Blue") is a *gene* - which (as I'm sure you are well aware) is different from Andalusian blue. And Andalusian blue is the base for what we know as "blue mottled" in cochins.

If you add the mottling gene (or the barring gene - or for that matter, ANY pattern gene) to a lavender bird, it is STILL the lavender gene that causes the bird's base color - it doesn't become "blue". I mean, after all, a lavender mille fleur is a "porcelain", is it not? We don't call it "blue mille fleur" of course, because that would indicate the Andalusian blue gene, right? So why couldn't we have "lavender mottled"? Or a "lavender cuckoo"? Or a "lavender partridge"? Or, or, or...

 

[Chris09]

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after all, a lavender mille fleur is a "porcelain", is it not

No, we don't call them "Blue Mille Fleur" but on the same note we also don't call them "Lavender Mille Fleur". We changed the name to a Porcelain.

So why couldn't we have "lavender mottled"? Or a "lavender cuckoo"? Or a "lavender partridge"?

Well, if we keep the Lavender title in the name "lavender mottled" just because it carries the "Lavender" gene does that mean that we should keep the Barring title in breeds that carry the barring gene but no longer show it? Example a solid Black or White Sport out of a Barred breed as in the White Plymouth Rock.

The other Question would be do we change the variety name of breed that already have a fowl that is "Lavender" with the Mottling gene interdicted as in the Old English Game Bantams.
In OEGB's bird's that are "Lavender" with the Mottling gene interdicted are called Pearl.
What about "Lavender" with Dominant White added, is it now a "Lavender White" or just White?

I not trying to start a "Lavender War"

but just trying to bring up some points.

On a side note --
In OEGB some Self Blue fowl are Splash with Lavender interdicted.

Chris​

 

[Illia]

Mottled x Lavender - Mate offspring together (brother-sister) , and you get a small portion of Lavender Mottled offspring, yes.

You'll need to hatch a LOT to see it, but if you really want it, the patience is worth it. Personally I think they won't be all that spiffy. . . I've seen light blue mottled birds and simply splash birds that look similar and are easier to obtain.

 

[ameraucanacrazy]

Okay thank yall of the help and I have a lot to think about.