It's going to be super cold.

[KsKingBee]

Calf Manna = crack for livestock

I am comparing my label to the Calf-Manna label and I am trying to see the difference. The CM seems to have the same contents, just less of it, except for salt, it has much more salt in the CM.

 

[Garden Peas]

I am comparing my label to the Calf-Manna label and I am trying to see the difference. The CM seems to have the same contents, just less of it, except for salt, it has much more salt in the CM.

Are you trying to compare your Country Acre gamebird feed to the Calf Manna (livestock feed) or the Manna Pro Gamebird crumble?

 

[Garden Peas]

It looks like "Country Acres" is a series of regionally manufactured foods affiliated with Purina.

I have heard before that much animal feed is manufactured regionally, and there can be differences depending on which region and mill may be manufacturing the feed. Dunno if this is still or ever was true.

 

[Garden Peas]

Where do you buy this and if you don't mind can I ask the price? I know our TSC doesn't carry this one, and I'm not really sure who else might.

I found it at a local, old-fashioned independent feed store that carries the full Manna-Pro line. Funny that you asked, because I was just on my way down there to get another bag. At the little independent store, it is $20.75 for a 50 lb bag. I love going in there -- I could hang out all day, just looking at stuff.

The owner (who works old-fashioned 10 hour shifts and runs the counter himself) suggested that you call around to see who carries Manna-Pro products in your area. Here's a dealer locator from the Manna-Pro website:

http://www.mannapro.com/where-to-buy/

It's a national country, and has mills in every region of the country, including one in York, Pennsylvania. Apparently it is the successor to the milling division of Carnation.

Here's some of the company's write-up about Calf Manna:

http://www.mannapro.com/products/calf-manna/

I buy a lot of stuff from TSC -- it's like the rancher's Wal-Mart -- but like Wal-Mart, it doesn't carry a lot of the really specialized feeds, and it focuses on the less expensive (and not always premium quality) stuff. The folks working at TSC vary in how much they know about the stuff they sell, depending on the community. It's a pleasure to be able to help support a local, independent feed store where the owner is there to answer questions and make sure it runs right.

 

[KsKingBee]

Are you trying to compare your Country Acre gamebird feed to the Calf Manna (livestock feed) or the Manna Pro Gamebird crumble?

I thought the Country Acres Gamebird I posted to the Calf Manna Gamebird crumble that Zaz posted the label of.?.

 

[Garden Peas]

Here's the layer pellet that I am currently feeding:





I looked up "Nutrena" -- which turns out to be a product line from Cargill. And Cargill turns out to also own Purina, which is a separate Cargill product line.... So all roads lead to Cargill

(Except for Manna-Pro...)

I think I bought this Nutrena laying pellet bag at TSC, don't recall what it cost.

Here's something really interesting about it. You recall we've been discussing on other threads the idea that peas would benefit from probiotics, particularly after being medicated with antibiotics or other meds that could disrupt the digestive flora. I've been looking, and so far, have not found any probiotics for poultry other than a tiny amount in one of the electrolyte powders. I'm sure there must be some, but I have been unsuccessful in my search.

But when I read what's left of the feed tag on the Nutrena bag, I noticed that there's a LOT of stuff that seems to be probiotic fermentation products. So I'm guessing this layer pellet will amply provide probiotic support to the birds. Who knew?

 

[Garden Peas]

I thought the Country Acres Gamebird I posted to the Calf Manna Gamebird crumble that Zaz posted the label of.?.

Calf Manna is NOT gamebird crumble. Calf Manna (what Zaz posted) is a nutritional supplement feed used primarily in livestock (CALF Manna

) that's been around for 80 years or more. Ranchers feed it to everything. It's good stuff, it's just a tad bit lower protein than the gamebird crumble.

Here's the scoop on Calf Manna:

http://www.mannapro.com/products/calf-manna/

The gamebird crumble is a separate Manna Pro (company) product.

 

[Garden Peas]

Here's what PeaLover130's cat (and therefore also the pea pen) is currently getting:






Hard to read in the photo, but it is 30% protein, lower than some other kinds... I think an "outdoor" catfood would have higher protein. I note that the salt content is NOT listed anywhere on the label, and neither is the "ash" content. I looked online at the Purina website, and could not find the salt content there either... that makes me suspicious that it might be higher than I would like, dunno how they get away with not listing it. Must be voluntary and they un-volunteered.

 

[KsKingBee]

It looks like "Country Acres" is a series of regionally manufactured foods affiliated with Purina.

I have heard before that much animal feed is manufactured regionally, and there can be differences depending on which region and mill may be manufacturing the feed. Dunno if this is still or ever was true.

Did you notice on the back of the label instructions on how to 'cut' the product with grain and crushed limestone? You buy the base Breeder/Starter, use it as is for a starter then after so many weeks cut it to drop the protein level for grow out or cut and add limestone for layer. The instructions are for pheasants, quail and chukars, but the principal should apply to peas as well to determine the percentages you want to feed.

 

[zazouse]

Here's what PeaLover130's cat (and therefore also the pea pen) is currently getting:






Hard to read in the photo, but it is 30% protein, lower than some other kinds... I think an "outdoor" catfood would have higher protein. I note that the salt content is NOT listed anywhere on the label, and neither is the "ash" content. I looked online at the Purina website, and could not find the salt content there either... that makes me suspicious that it might be higher than I would like, dunno how they get away with not listing it. Must be voluntary and they un-volunteered.

Last ingredient listed on the bag

Sodium selenite

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Not to be confused with Selenite (mineral).

Sodium selenite​

Identifiers​

CAS number (hydrate: 26970-82-1) 10102-18-8 (hydrate: 26970-82-1)

PubChem 24934
ChemSpider 23308

UNII HIW548RQ3W

EC number 233-267-9
UN number 2630
ChEBI CHEBI:48843

ChEMBL CHEMBL112302

RTECS number VS7350000
ATC code A12CE02
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Properties​

Molecular formula Na2O3Se
Molar mass 172.94 g mol−1
Appearance colourless solid
Density 3.1 g/cm3
Melting point decomposes at 710 °C
Solubility in water 85 g/100 mL (20 °C)
Solubility insoluble in alcohol, ethanol

Structure​

Crystal structure tetragonal

Hazards​

MSDS ICSC 0698
EU Index 034-003-00-3
EU classification Very toxic (T+)
Dangerous for the environment (N)
R-phrases R23, R28, R31, R43, R51/53
S-phrases (S1/2), S28, S36/37, S45,S61
NFPA 704

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Related compounds​

Related compounds Sodium sulfite
Sodium selenate
Sodium selenide
Except where noted otherwise, data are given for materials in their standard state (at 25 °C (77 °F), 100 kPa)

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Sodium selenite is the inorganic compound with the formula Na2SeO3. This salt is a colourless solid. The pentahydrate Na2SeO3(H2O)5 is the most common water-soluble seleniumcompound.

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• 1 Synthesis and fundamental reactions
• 2 Applications
• 3 Safety
• 4 See also
• 5 References
• 6 External links

Synthesis and fundamental reactions[edit]

Sodium selenite usually is prepared by the reaction of selenium dioxide with sodium hydroxide:[1]
SeO2 + 2 NaOH → Na2SeO3 + H2O
The hydrate converts to the anhydrous salt upon heating to 40 °C.
Akin to the related salt sodium sulfite, Na2SeO3 features a pyramidal dianion SeO32–.[2] Oxidation of this anion gives sodium selenate, Na2SeO4.