It's going to be super cold.

Calf Manna is NOT gamebird crumble. Calf Manna (what Zaz posted) is a nutritional supplement feed used primarily in livestock (CALF Manna
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) that's been around for 80 years or more. Ranchers feed it to everything. It's good stuff, it's just a tad bit lower protein than the gamebird crumble.

Here's the scoop on Calf Manna:

http://www.mannapro.com/products/calf-manna/

The gamebird crumble is a separate Manna Pro (company) product.
I thought that her label was Calf Manna Gamebird crumbles. What confused me is that it and Country Acres was basically the same, just that the CM had lesser amounts in the percentages.
 
another on the ingredient list, if it says sodium it is salt of some kind
Sodium bisulfate

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Sodium bisulphate

IUPAC name[hide]
Sodium hydrogen sulfate
Other names[hide]
Sodium acid sulfate
Bisulfate of soda
Identifiers​
CAS number 7681-38-1
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, 10034-88-5 (monohydrate)
PubChem 516919
ChemSpider 56397
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EC number 231-665-7
RTECS number VZ1860000
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Properties​
Molecular formula NaHSO4
Molar mass 120.06 g/mol (anhydrous)
138.07 g/mol (monohydrate)
Appearance white solid
Density 2.742 g/cm3 (anhydrous)
1.8 g/cm3 (monohydrate)
Melting point 58.5 °C (137.3 °F; 331.6 K) (monohydrate)
315 °C (anhydrous)
Boiling point decomposes to Na2S2O7 (+ H2O) at 315 °C (599 °F; 588 K)
Solubility in water 28.5 g/100 mL (25 °C)
100 g/100 mL (100 °C)
Solubility insoluble in ammonia; decomposed by alcohol
Acidity (pKa) 1.99
Structure​
Crystal structure triclinic (anhydrous)
monoclinic (monohydrate)
Hazards​
MSDS External MSDS
EU Index Corrosive (C)
R-phrases R34 R37 R41
S-phrases S26 S36 S37 S39 S45
NFPA 704
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Flash point Non-flammable
Related compounds​
Other anions Sodium sulfate
Other cations Potassium bisulfate
Except where noted otherwise, data are given for materials in their standard state (at 25 °C (77 °F), 100 kPa)
Sodium bisulfate, also known as sodium hydrogen sulfate,[1] is the sodium salt of the bisulfate anion, with the molecular formula NaHSO4. Sodium bisulfate is an acid salt formed by partial neutralization of sulfuric acid by an equivalent of sodium, typically either in the form of sodium hydroxide or sodium chloride. It is a dry granular product that can be safely shipped and stored. The anhydrous form is hygroscopic. Solutions of sodium bisulfate are acidic, with a 1M solution having a pH of < 1.

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Production[edit]

One production method involves mixing stoichiometric quantities of sodium hydroxide and sulfuric acid which react to form sodium bisulfate and water.
NaOH + H2SO4 → NaHSO4 + H2O
A second production method involves reacting sodium chloride (salt) and sulfuric acid at elevated temperatures to produce sodium bisulfate and hydrogen chloride gas.
NaCl + H2SO4 → NaHSO4 + HCl
The liquid sodium bisulfate is sprayed and cooled so that it forms a solid bead. The hydrogen chloride gas is dissolved in water to produce hydrochloric acid as a useful coproduct of the reaction.
There are only two producers in the USA: Jones-Hamilton Co. uses the sulfuric acid/sodium chloride process, which produces the anhydrous form. Jost Chemical uses the sodium hydroxide/sulfuric acid method, which produces the monohydrate.
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It's likely that you guys already know this, but just in case you don't, when you see ingredients like "Animal Protein Products" or when they say they use "multiple sources of high-quality protein," this can include, among many other unpleasant things, diseased animals that have already been treated with drugs and chemicals, roadkill, and euthanized dogs and cats.
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Just something to think about...http://www.itsfortheanimals.com/DOGFOOD-BARK.HTM
 
It's likely that you guys already know this, but just in case you don't, when you see ingredients like "Animal Protein Products" or when they say they use "multiple sources of high-quality protein," this can include, among many other unpleasant things, diseased animals that have already been treated with drugs and chemicals, roadkill, and euthanized dogs and cats.
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Just something to think about...http://www.itsfortheanimals.com/DOGFOOD-BARK.HTM
They do not make dog and cat foods like they use to back in the day the first ingredient on dog and cat food was meat of some kind now it starts with corn, soy or another grain, while dogs can tolerate this kind of stuff it is very hard on cat some more so than others ,in the wild cats do not hunt for corn and wheat they hunt for meat they are carnivores
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Also when they use to get rendered meats to make dog and cat food it had more actual good meat parts from cattle now they sell the tongues,cheek meat, tripe at the grocery stores because it is socially acceptable now where before many folks thought that stuff was gross
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It's likely that you guys already know this, but just in case you don't, when you see ingredients like "Animal Protein Products" or when they say they use "multiple sources of high-quality protein," this can include, among many other unpleasant things, diseased animals that have already been treated with drugs and chemicals, roadkill, and euthanized dogs and cats.
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Just something to think about...http://www.itsfortheanimals.com/DOGFOOD-BARK.HTM

Recycle. It's good for the planet.
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Okay, the chemistry of salt & sodium on food labels is murky, and probably intentionally so. When we say "salt," we are usually talking about Sodium Chloride (NaCl), the major ingredient in table salt, and the ingredient listed on the bags as "salt." Salt (NaCl) is what doctors worry with in humans because of the sodium (Na) content, typically... when they recommend a "low sodium" diet for certain medical conditions. "(Table) Salt alternatives" such as potassium chloride tend to taste more bitter, but don't have the sodium component.

Chemically, there are many things which are "salts" such as that same potassium chloride (KCl) and even copper sulfate. Chemically, "salts" are ionic compounds. Some salts disassociate in water which is helpful in some conditions, such as in trying to get one or both parts absorbed into the body. So preparing some element into a "salt" may make it easier for the body to absorb.

I noticed, in going through the feed bags, that "salt" (apparently NaCl, table salt) is listed separately from the other ingredients, many of which are chemical "salts" (which are being used to deliver supplemental elements or vitamins). So for example, the sodium selenite that you mentioned is a way to deliver trace amounts of selenium, which is an essential element.

I don't know whether the veterinary concern in a normal, healthy animal would be related to the total level of sodium (Na) or the total level of NaCl, table salt. But the labels do not give a total sodium content at all. The supplemental elements and amino acids that are being delivered as "salts" are probably important contributors to animal health.

Those things way down the list at the bottom end are in the feed in fairly minute quantities...
 
I hate, hate, hate hate winter!
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Both my roosters have frostbitten wattles. Just got thru Vaseline-ing both of them, Bandit is much worse than Barney. Boy I sure do hope all the Pea toes are okay.
 
I hate, hate, hate hate winter!  :mad:   Both my roosters have frostbitten wattles. Just got thru Vaseline-ing both of them, Bandit is much worse than Barney. Boy I sure do hope all the Pea toes are okay.


So do I! You should get Impeyan pheasants- they make the north worth it since they do better in the cold (but that doesn't mean they cannot be raised down south properly).
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So do I! You should get Impeyan pheasants- they make the north worth it since they do better in the cold (but that doesn't mean they cannot be raised down south properly).

Very tempting! They are a little bit prettier than my Roosters as well.
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And after this frostbite they are gonna be ALOT prettier than my boys, can you say "Wattlectomy".
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I have an extra male, plan on raising chicks from my pair, and will be getting a clutch of eggs from a local guy so I will have some for you when you are ready! They are a 2-in-1 deal: beautiful birds and living rototillers...
 

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