Ivermectin Oral Paste vs Oral liquid for Poultry Lice

[HeatherKellyB]

I came here to search for advice on using Ivermectin vs. Valbazen Drench wormer. Is the VD easily given or is there a topical version?

I read a few things and thought the correct answer might be Valbazen, as it treats tapeworms (and most of the other common worms), mites, and lice. Seems like a broad spectrum answer to a variety of issues?

The one thing I haven't found consistent info on is egg withdrawal time?

Thanks for any advice.

I also use Valblazen and was advised that the residue in eggs was a very minute amount and should be gone quickly.
@dawg53 @Eggcessive

 

[PasoRoblesEgger]

I also use Valblazen and was advised that the residue in eggs was a very minute amount and should be gone quickly.
@dawg53 @Eggcessive

Can I ask how you administered? I was thinking it might be easiest to do at night while they are all in the coop? If I do it in the run during the day, I guess I could mark them as I go? No danger of them choking?

 

[HeatherKellyB]

Can I ask how you administered? I was thinking it might be easiest to do at night while they are all in the coop? If I do it in the run during the day, I guess I could mark them as I go? No danger of them choking?

I did it in the morning. I took each one off the roost and let them go once they had their dose. The chickens were hungry and any worms would also be hungry at this time. Dawg advised me about this as well.

 

[HeatherKellyB]

Dosed each one, one at a time, as i took each bird off the roost. Sorry. My brain isn't working so well right now, haha

 

[LateBirdFarms]

Ivermectin has said to have lost some of it’s effectiveness as a wormer due to it’s overuse as a mite treatment. So to insure treatment for worms, SafeGuard or Valbazen are good chiices for worming. If you an get a fecal float to check for worm eggs after treating with the ivermectin, you could check and see if there are worm eggs in the droppings.

I use safeguard normally for worm issues, so I wouldn't have considered the Ivermectin for treatment if I wasn't advised to use it for the lice, but its good to know its limitations and I'll stick with safeguard for future use! I opened my itty bitty mouth and inserted my huge foot by openly saying I've never had a mite problem and I'm totally unfamiliar with the Ivermec so thank you!

I feel a little silly that my common sense needed a nudge, I'm not sure why the float test didn't come to mind automatically! I do have a vet willing to do that much, even if he's not willing to look at a chicken.

 

[dawg53]

I came here to search for advice on using Ivermectin vs. Valbazen Drench wormer. Is the VD easily given or is there a topical version?

I read a few things and thought the correct answer might be Valbazen, as it treats tapeworms (and most of the other common worms), mites, and lice. Seems like a broad spectrum answer to a variety of issues?

The one thing I haven't found consistent info on is egg withdrawal time?

Thanks for any advice

Valbazen treats all types of roundworms, but has lost its effectiveness treating tapeworms. It can be done, but at higher doses and withholding feed for a longer period of time. It's best to use a product containing praziquantel for tapeworms. Valbazen will kill flukes as well as praziquantel.
Valbazen will not treat lice or mites.

 

[dawg53]

I use safeguard normally for worm issues, so I wouldn't have considered the Ivermectin for treatment if I wasn't advised to use it for the lice, but its good to know its limitations and I'll stick with safeguard for future use! I opened my itty bitty mouth and inserted my huge foot by openly saying I've never had a mite problem and I'm totally unfamiliar with the Ivermec so thank you!

I feel a little silly that my common sense needed a nudge, I'm not sure why the float test didn't come to mind automatically! I do have a vet willing to do that much, even if he's not willing to look at a chicken.

Stick with the Safeguard and Permethrin. Remove lice eggs with coconut oil.
Treat the lice infected Silkies coop with Permethrin and repeat again in 10-14 days to kill lice hatched from eggs. Same for the Silkie

 

[PasoRoblesEgger]

Valbazen treats all types of roundworms, but has lost its effectiveness treating tapeworms. It can be done, but at higher doses and withholding feed for a longer period of time. It's best to use a product containing praziquantel for tapeworms. Valbazen will kill flukes as well as praziquantel.
Valbazen will not treat lice or mites.

Thank you. Do you proactively treat for worms, or only with a float test? I'm new at this, when I research it seems like for every opinion, there is an opposite view. Gets a little confusing.

 

[aart]

I'm new at this, when I research it seems like for every opinion, there is an opposite view. Gets a little confusing.

Worming regimes can vary by region/climate.

Where in this world are you located @PasoRoblesEgger?
Climate, and time of year, is almost always a factor.
Please add your general geographical location to your profile.
It's easy to do, and then it's always there!

 

[dawg53]

Thank you. Do you proactively treat for worms, or only with a float test? I'm new at this, when I research it seems like for every opinion, there is an opposite view. Gets a little confusing.

I worm my birds monthly. I live in a hot/humid/wet environment. Our soil is warm and wet most of the year.
Your environment and soil dictate how often you should worm your birds.