IVERMECTIN-pour on dosage

[chooniecat]

OK-tons of conflicting info and I THINK I have the little bit I could understand correct. POUR ON 1/2cc per bird(standard chickens)on skin.Somewhere on here it was said "6 drops per bird" BUT what kind of dropper????Could cause HUGE dosage difference if different "droppers" are used. So I am going with the 1/2 cc suggestion(between shoulder blades) Is this possibly a problem? I hate to go to the effort(32 birds tonight) if it will have NO effect and I also don't want them to die!TY.

 

[taprock]

This is what I do per our poultry vet - doesn't always mean it's right.

I use ivomec pour on for cattle (5 mg/ml). I put 3 drops on bantams, 4 regular, 5 really big or fluffy and 6 on my guineas. I use it for Fowl mites. You don't have to withhold eggs. I was told every three weeks but then it was changed to sooner if needed. Also I use a plain old eye dropper. I have had no adverse effect overdosing, as I can say a couple wilder acting birds got much more than directed. I have 63 chickens and 5 guineas so it takes a while. I usually do it after dark with a headlamp and just climb around the coop. Good luck

 

[cowcreekgeek]

Sorry-not on often-am using POUR ON Ivermectin(don't remember brand name) and it is TOPICAL(thats what I read on here previously)And I DO have the Ivermectin 1% injectable that I can use oral(in h20) but have another product(of course I can't remember name) that was suggested on here and have already dosed with that. I am just concerned, currently, with the topical dosage of the Ivermectin POUR ON to use topically(don't see external pests on my domestic fowl but I want to make positive as have had mites on my skin from front porch wild birds!!)

The injectible in water is the only treatment that vets can get away w/ doin' under current FDA rules, and the pour-on goes beyond off-label use, despite folks doin' it for quite some number of years. I do know of resistances developing w/in flocks, when it's used to often, or under-dosed just a few times. I've never read of overdosing, not that I've any studies to offer ... I wouldn't eat the eggs for at least ten days.

The dropper used is the common drugstore variety of medicine droppers, by all but Nathalie Ross, who uses a 20 Guage needle as her dropper.

Also, do NOT use the Ivermectin Plus, as it contains an additional wormer that is not safe for chickens.

When your estimation is short, I'd dose the extra drop, as overdosing does not appear to be an issue w/in such narrow margins (i.e. the difference between the 7 or 9 drops is less than +/-12%.

And, finally? I'm not a vet, and do not encourage you to violate FDA rules/regulations, and I have not personally verified these infromations, which I provide as a second-hand collection of other folks' suggestions.

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For specifically the IVOMEC Pour-On for Cattle, from Drugs.com:

The dose rate is 1 mL for each 22 lb of body weight. The formulation should be applied along the topline in a narrow strip extending from the withers to the tailhead.

--- 01 --- Randy Henry

Directions for 5% ivomec with oil base put on shoulder
only not internally.
(1 1 drop small bantam such as female OE
(2 2 drops large bantam male like OE
(3 3 drops most bantams
(4 4 drops larger bantams and smaller commercial hens
(5 5 drops commercial large fowl and smaller large
fowl
(5 5 drops Large fowl chicken
(7 7 drops larger males of large fowl breeds of
Chickens.

--- 02 --- Nathalie Ross

For the pour on (5% oil) Ivermectin (not Eprinex) the dosage I
use is as follows:
1 drop - OEGB sized small bantam female
2 drops - OEGB sized small bantam male
3 drops - average bantams
4 drops - large bantams, small commercial fowl
5 drops - most commercial fowl, small giant hens
6 drops - giant breeds of chicken

I always use a 3 cc syringe that I just fill to about 2 cc's with a 20 gauge needle. The needle WON'T be injected into the chicken, but does make it easier to dispense a controlled correct sized drop. It also is easier to get in there between the feathers.

NOTE: Confirmed this info in a second incident or author, in a different post.

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TazneenDragon, via Rating system of Amazon
specific product: Vurvet Ivermectin Pour On 250 Ml

It's pretty much the same for chickens, which is how I discovered this product. Nothing else could get rid of the scaly feet mites because they didn't have them bad enough to raise the scales substantially, so that topicals had a problem getting in the small crevices. Between the topicals and the Ivermectin, everyone is making a great recovery. For small bantam hens, 3 drops. 4 drops for bantam roosters. I give around 9 drops to my 7 pound rooster. Make sure to give it every two weeks, though, because it is only effective on parasites that take blood meals. That means that anything in egg form will not be effected, so you will have to get them as they hatch out by keeping on top of the two week schedule.

 

[Redbrew]

Here is a short clarification on doseage of Ivermectin POUR ON for cattle
in the 5mg per ml option. This is just the doseage math of this product per body weight per the package markings.

10 ml per 220 pounds of body weight = 0.1 ml per 1 pound of body weight.

Doseage per pound would then be:

1 lb = 0.1 ml
2 lb = 0.2 ml
3 lb = 0.3 ml
4 lb = 0.4 ml
5 lb = 0.5 ml (this is one half of a milliliter)
6 lb = 0.6 ml
7 lb = 0.7 ml
8 lb = 0.8 ml
9 lb = 0.9 ml
10 lb = 1.0 ml (one whole milliliter)
11 lb = 1.1 ml
12 lb = 1.2 ml
and so on.

The "number of drops" is dependent upon the size of the dropper you are using to dispense the designated ml of solution. For example, I have a 1cc/ml syringe. When I drop out .05 ml of solution from the syringe (no needle) it takes 3 drops. Changing the size of the dropper opening (such as adding a needle) or the diameter of the syringe may change the number of drops needed to dispense the solution.

Note, another 1 cc/ml syringe might have a different size opening from the one I have. So the individual dropper needs to be tested for number of drops for the ml of solution.
I hope this helps a little. Thanks to everyone for including information from their vets! This helps folks make informed decisions.

 

[Redbrew]

Agreed YES it handles both, which is what makes it such a great option, especially if you aren't sure what has your birds low. I read somewhere it is used for all kinds of animals, including people, who have parasitic conditions. I also read it's considered one of the safest drugs we know of, in the manner we consider penicillin so safe, as its made from a natural substance in Japan. I digress... anyway, we had tried EVERYTHING for our flock's leg mites. Everything! But the Ivermectin Pour On has made a noticeable difference in just a short time after the first application. I paid $18 for a smallish/medium size container at my local farm store.

 

[Trux]

From what I have read yes. It is absorbed into the blood stream through the skin, it will not kill the eggs so that is why it is recommended to do a second treatment

 

[Heather74]

Here is a short clarification on doseage of Ivermectin POUR ON for cattle
in the 5mg per ml option. This is just the doseage math of this product per body weight per the package markings.

10 ml per 220 pounds of body weight = 0.1 ml per 1 pound of body weight.

Doseage per pound would then be:

1 lb = 0.1 ml
2 lb = 0.2 ml
3 lb = 0.3 ml
4 lb = 0.4 ml
5 lb = 0.5 ml (this is one half of a milliliter)
6 lb = 0.6 ml
7 lb = 0.7 ml
8 lb = 0.8 ml
9 lb = 0.9 ml
10 lb = 1.0 ml (one whole milliliter)
11 lb = 1.1 ml
12 lb = 1.2 ml
and so on.

The "number of drops" is dependent upon the size of the dropper you are using to dispense the designated ml of solution. For example, I have a 1cc/ml syringe. When I drop out .05 ml of solution from the syringe (no needle) it takes 3 drops. Changing the size of the dropper opening (such as adding a needle) or the diameter of the syringe may change the number of drops needed to dispense the solution.

Note, another 1 cc/ml syringe might have a different size opening from the one I have. So the individual dropper needs to be tested for number of drops for the ml of solution.
I hope this helps a little. Thanks to everyone for including information from their vets! This helps folks make informed decisions.

Woah wait. I'm pretty math stupid.
How did you come to that answer?
10/220 = 0.045
Wouldn't that mean almost 0.05ml/lb?
My head hurts. :/

I'm about to call the dang company They give like 3 different dosages

Update:
I called the company and they confirmed 0.045ml per lb is the dosage. They don't suggest this particular product on chickens for eating, but were super nice and answered on the 1st ring.

 

[chooniecat]

Sorry-not on often-am using POUR ON Ivermectin(don't remember brand name) and it is TOPICAL(thats what I read on here previously)And I DO have the Ivermectin 1% injectable that I can use oral(in h20) but have another product(of course I can't remember name) that was suggested on here and have already dosed with that. I am just concerned, currently, with the topical dosage of the Ivermectin POUR ON to use topically(don't see external pests on my domestic fowl but I want to make positive as have had mites on my skin from front porch wild birds!!)

 

[Cragg Klefor]

I posted the following question in another thread but haven't heard from anyone, so trying again, with apologies for the cross-posting: Is it important to get the ivermectin right on the skin, or will it be absorbed if I put it on feathers (on the back of the neck)? Thanks everyone!

I think you probably just didn't get responses as it's possible (hopefully) the ivermectin got to the skin and was absorbed, but not definite. It is supposed to be placed directly on the skin.

 

[Ber]

This is what I do per our poultry vet - doesn't always mean it's right.

I use ivomec pour on for cattle (5 mg/ml). I put 3 drops on bantams, 4 regular, 5 really big or fluffy and 6 on my guineas. I use it for Fowl mites. You don't have to withhold eggs. I was told every three weeks but then it was changed to sooner if needed. Also I use a plain old eye dropper. I have had no adverse effect overdosing, as I can say a couple wilder acting birds got much more than directed. I have 63 chickens and 5 guineas so it takes a while. I usually do it after dark with a headlamp and just climb around the coop. Good luck

Sorry to jump in but, I was reading to find out if this will help scaly leg mites. Putting it on them after dark is GENIUS! So obvious but never thought about it. Thank you for that. Now, I just have to find a ladder. my 3 "youngins"like to sleep in a tree in their run. Did I mention the 1 is a black giant. Im sure the branch will break eventually.