James Marie Pharaoh vs. American Pharaoh quail?

[AClassicalLife]

Robby posted these on another site. Every bird wont lay the celadon color eggs. But there is a chance.... Its rare and they carry the gene.....

Wow, these are far more beautiful than I would have expected. Thanks for sharing them! Hopefully I will be able to get at least one that lays celadon eggs.

 

[fishermanroly]

Looks like I'm going to have to talk the wife into more quail lol those blues are beautiful and the eggs look awesome I'm waiting on order from jmf once there hatched I'm ordering these.

 

[WaterfowlWierdo]

Do you know how true to color any of them breed? I have a set of Italian Speckled eggs hatching any day now and would like an idea of how to pair them up. I was planning on putting a few Tibetans and Rosetta in with a male Italian just to see what I get.

All those colors breed true when they are by themselves. Not sure about the crossing, be worth a shot to toy with though

 

[cobb4861]

All those colors breed true when they are by themselves. Not sure about the crossing, be worth a shot to toy with though

Thank you. Do you happen to know which genes are the lethal genes? I hear that Manchurian carry that.

 

[WaterfowlWierdo]

Thank you. Do you happen to know which genes are the lethal genes? I hear that Manchurian carry that.

I couldnt tell you off the top of my head, But one of the threads on here says if any are lethal. I think it may be in the stickies

 

[Sill]

The gene for the "celadon" egg is recessive, but seems to only attach itself to females of the species, which makes it's appearance pretty much random. Genetically I'm not entirely sure how this happens but, in time it may be possible to isolate it. Robby refers to it as a "drop mutation".

I'm not sure what a drop mutation is. I know with chickens by breeding a roo that hatched out of the egg color you are aiming for and breeding him with a hen that lays the color and if possible who's mother lays the color you you desire you will greatly increase your chances of producing that egg color. This is especially true for the dark eggs, roos hatched from the darkest eggs produce hens that lay darker eggs. I would expect similar results for quail egg color.

 

[Fat Daddy]

I'm not sure what a drop mutation is. I know with chickens by breeding a roo that hatched out of the egg color you are aiming for and breeding him with a hen that lays the color and if possible who's mother lays the color you you desire you will greatly increase your chances of producing that egg color. This is especially true for the dark eggs, roos hatched from the darkest eggs produce hens that lay darker eggs. I would expect similar results for quail egg color.

If I were chase'n the blue egg. This is exactly how I would expect to get it..... Hatch the blue egg and hope for a Roo. Then cover the hen that laid the blue egg with said roo.... The only problem is the first blue egg! I hope those that end up with these birds work towards this goal. A lot of us have played with egg patterns over the years. It is usually passed from mother to daughter. But the blue is more than paint and a whole new layer to the hobby. I look forward to reading of this line..... Good luck.

 

[fishermanroly]

My eggs are on the way can't wait

 

[cobb4861]

My eggs are on the way can't wait

That's great! Good luck with the hatch. I just heard that my batch of silvers will be shipping out soon. And so far all the JMF pharaoh and the new batch of Golden layers from JMF are all growing fast.

 

[Gentry1350]

Guy with silvers (originally)

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/102281/coturnix-quail-basics-information-and-pictures-galore/1660

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