Jose s Marneck chooks

[Chooks man]

Will crests be part of the finished goal?

yes they need to have crest .
we are working on F2 back cross to marans roosters to add feathered legs . we hatched few under broody hens .they look good .only have 9 chicks .
best pullets are penned with NN rooster .we want to add the NN genes to the project .

chooks man

 

[chickengr]

what are you trying to say .did not understand a world ?
chooks man

I guess another all hat no cattle. luckily they do not last for long here.

hens at least give us eggs and meat, so they are not useless like arrogant-believe-to-be-smart talks.

 

[Chooks man]

F2 chicks from NN roo hatched .11 first couples of weeks ago and 5 yesterday . so this chicks are 50 % NN Blue Silky .25% Marans and 25% CLB . only 4 are NN .

hope all the NN chicks will be cockerels . need them for my stage 3 of my breeding programs .
best cockerels from this F2 progeny will be mated back to original F1 hens on one side and to F2 hens from Marans roos over F1 other cross . that will give me 2 different F3 Marneck chooks.
F3 from F2 NN X F1 will have .37.5% marans , 37.5% CLB and 25% NN genes { NN and crest minimum legs feathering plus colored eggs }.
F3 from F2 NN X Marans hens will have 62.5% marans ,25% NN and 12,3 % CLB genes
[ NN with feathered legs minimum crest and colored eggs }

still have to make F2 from F1 X F1 that will give me another branch to breed from specifically for a Blue eggs and gorgeous crest .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

more F2 Marneck chicks are hatching .

love the Blue one with crest and feathered feet . NN with feathered feet ae cute too .
chooks man

 

[DarJones]

Are you attempting to produce a pure breeding blue egg layer? If so, have you considered sending feather samples to Germany to identify the roosters that carry one or two copies of the oocyanin gene?

 

[Chooks man]

Are you attempting to produce a pure breeding blue egg layer? If so, have you considered sending feather samples to Germany to identify the roosters that carry one or two copies of the oocyanin gene?

yes I m trying to breed a Blue egg layer true , sending feathers to Germany never thought or know any thing about it ,
it is easy to identify a pure blue eggs layer rooster ,test mating him to a white eggs layer . if all his daughter lay blue eggs ,than he is a carriers of the 2 genes .if only half of his daughter lay blue eggs than he is a carrier of one coppy of the genes .old school method .

I m in Australia by the way .
chooks man

 

[chickengr]

yes I m trying to breed a Blue egg layer true , sending feathers to Germany never thought or know any thing about it ,
it is easy to identify a pure blue eggs layer rooster ,test mating him to a white eggs layer . if all his daughter lay blue eggs ,than he is a carriers of the 2 genes .if only half of his daughter lay blue eggs than he is a carrier of one coppy of the genes .old school method .

I m in Australia by the way .
chooks man

how many pullets do we need to be sure that he carries 2 blue egg genes?

 

[DarJones]

Have to raise at least a dozen pullets from a rooster to verify he is homozygous for the blue egg trait. Cost of hatching 2 dozen chicks, raising only the females, waiting for them to lay to ensure they all lay blue eggs, plus maintaining the rooster in the meantime can easily run $200 to $400 or more. Consider that you have to trial mate at least 4 roosters in this way to find 1 that is homozygous, you can guess it gets expensive fast. Costs $30 U.S. to have DNA run on a feather sample. Run it for 4 roosters and odds are at least 1 will be homozygous blue, 1 homozygous non-blue, and two will be heterozygous blue.

The Silverudd's group has arranged for tests to be run by shipping feather samples from the U.S. to Germany. I requested permission to ship my samples with theirs. Barring incident, I have 18 samples on the way to Germany by March 15th.

https://www.silveruddsblue.org/resources

 

[chickengr]

Have to raise at least a dozen pullets from a rooster to verify he is homozygous for the blue egg trait. Cost of hatching 2 dozen chicks, raising only the females, waiting for them to lay to ensure they all lay blue eggs, plus maintaining the rooster in the meantime can easily run $200 to $400 or more. Consider that you have to trial mate at least 4 roosters in this way to find 1 that is homozygous, you can guess it gets expensive fast. Costs $30 U.S. to have DNA run on a feather sample. Run it for 4 roosters and odds are at least 1 will be homozygous blue, 1 homozygous non-blue, and two will be heterozygous blue.

The Silverudd's group has arranged for tests to be run by shipping feather samples from the U.S. to Germany. I requested permission to ship my samples with theirs. Barring incident, I have 18 samples on the way to Germany by March 15th.

https://www.silveruddsblue.org/resources

I live in greece.

a friend of mine has a roo in question. he might put a few white egg layers with his 2 green egg layers. if some of his girls produce pullets who lay eggs white inside it would mean he is not homozygous blue.

 

[Chooks man]

Have to raise at least a dozen pullets from a rooster to verify he is homozygous for the blue egg trait. Cost of hatching 2 dozen chicks, raising only the females, waiting for them to lay to ensure they all lay blue eggs, plus maintaining the rooster in the meantime can easily run $200 to $400 or more. Consider that you have to trial mate at least 4 roosters in this way to find 1 that is homozygous, you can guess it gets expensive fast. Costs $30 U.S. to have DNA run on a feather sample. Run it for 4 roosters and odds are at least 1 will be homozygous blue, 1 homozygous non-blue, and two will be heterozygous blue.

The Silverudd's group has arranged for tests to be run by shipping feather samples from the U.S. to Germany. I requested permission to ship my samples with theirs. Barring incident, I have 18 samples on the way to Germany by March 15th.

https://www.silveruddsblue.org/resources

that is really great way to safe time and money .
I will try and look into it ,very interested , thank you for the info .
chooks man