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June Hatch A Long

Okay, at least half of the 9 or 10 external pips are on the wrong side of the egg. They’re strong little booger’s with THREE of them successfully pipping through a bruise and are still alive.

What could be causing this?

Also, my upside down carton Hatcher is In the little giant and my humidity was fine and when I went the last time it was 40. Ugh. His membrane looks plenty dry. I oiled it again, but I’m expecting I’ve also shrink wrapped this chick. It’s an external/internal pip together so I have time to watch and wait. It occasionally peeps and slowly chews.
 
Okay, at least half of the 9 or 10 external pips are on the wrong side of the egg. They’re strong little booger’s with THREE of them successfully pipping through a bruise and are still alive.

What could be causing this?

Also, my upside down carton Hatcher is In the little giant and my humidity was fine and when I went the last time it was 40. Ugh. His membrane looks plenty dry. I oiled it again, but I’m expecting I’ve also shrink wrapped this chick. It’s an external/internal pip together so I have time to watch and wait. It occasionally peeps and slowly chews.

The chick I had with an external pip on the wrong side of the egg hatched without issue and no assistance was needed so I hope it will be the same for you as well! Sometimes it also appears they've pipped the wrong end when it's actually because of how the air cell changed shape prior to them pipping which is even more likely that they will still be able to hatch on their own. Regardless, external pips are a great sign no matter where they are on the egg!
You got this! Just be prepared to wait a couple of days while they decide they want to leave the eggs, lol. :rolleyes:
 
Final stats: started with 12 shipped BCM eggs and 7 home bred OE, from a hen that we successfully hatched eggs from last month but unproven young rooster. In the end, we ended up with one pullet and one cockerel OE. Of the 12 shipped eggs, 2 were early deaths, 8 mid way deaths, and 2 late deaths. One late death was probably about day 17. One was fully developed and in proper position but failed to internally pip. Both had malformed air cells. Of the 7 OEs, 1 was infertile, 1 was set late and had a loose aircell (did not give it time to cool and develop the aircell). Of the six fertile, 2 hatched at the beginning of day 20. Two were autolyzed (rotten, this includes the set late egg) on day 21, and two were in the “beak over right wing” malposition. I’ve read a little on this malposition, and it can be a “normal variant”, it can occur in rounder eggs (our CCL does lay round eggs), and can be due to hot incubation temps. Given that this hen just gave us 2/2 chicks a month ago, and that the survivors hatched a day early, I think that I need to consider my incubator being too hot. I do have a calibrated probe and it’s shown me that I have hot and cold spots. I tried to compensate by moving the eggs twice a day, and the average probe temp was 99.7, but I think I should turn the temp down 0.5 F for the guinea eggs that still have 2 weeks to go. Thanks everyone for all of your help and support. I’ll post pics of Naruto with her chicks once she decides to leave her nest!
 
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Final stats: started with 12 shipped BCM eggs and 7 home bred OE, from a hen that we successfully hatched eggs from last month but unproven young rooster. In the end, we ended up with one pullet and one cockerel OE. Of the 12 shipped eggs, 2 were early deaths, 8 mid way deaths, and 2 late deaths. One late death was probably about day 17. One was fully developed and in proper position but failed to internally pip. Both had malformed air cells. Of the 7 OEs, 1 was infertile, 1 was set late and had a loose aircell (did not give it time to cool and develop the aircell). Of the six fertile, 2 hatched at the beginning of day 20. Two were autolyzed (rotten, this includes the set late egg) on day 21, and two were in the “beak over right wing” malformation. I’ve read a little on this malformation, and it can be a “normal variant”, it can occur in rounder eggs (our CCL does lay round eggs), and can be due to hot incubation temps. Given that this hen just gave us 2/2 chicks a month ago, and that the survivors hatched a day early, I think that I need to consider my incubator being too hot. I do have a calibrated probe and it’s shown me that I have hot and cold spots. I tried to compensate by moving the eggs twice a day, and the average probe temp was 99.7, but I think I should turn the temp down 0.5 F for the guinea eggs that still have 2 weeks to go. Thanks everyone for all of your help and support. I’ll post pics of Naruto with her chicks once she decides to leave her nest!
I’m sorry you didn’t have the best hatch... can’t wait to see Naruto and babies, though!
 
Final count for the night: 15 external pips (that’s more than half what went into lockdown), and 6 of them are on the wrong end. Two of those could be actually at the bottom of a very dipped shipped air cell, but the others are at the bottom... on the other side. I rolled those up and all the external pipped eggs are rocking, as well as a few of the others!
 
Final count for the night: 15 external pips (that’s more than half what went into lockdown), and 6 of them are on the wrong end. Two of those could be actually at the bottom of a very dipped shipped air cell, but the others are at the bottom... on the other side. I rolled those up and all the external pipped eggs are rocking, as well as a few of the others!
Sounds reasonably good so far! You going to bed at some point or... ;-)
 
Final stats: started with 12 shipped BCM eggs and 7 home bred OE, from a hen that we successfully hatched eggs from last month but unproven young rooster. In the end, we ended up with one pullet and one cockerel OE. Of the 12 shipped eggs, 2 were early deaths, 8 mid way deaths, and 2 late deaths. One late death was probably about day 17. One was fully developed and in proper position but failed to internally pip. Both had malformed air cells. Of the 7 OEs, 1 was infertile, 1 was set late and had a loose aircell (did not give it time to cool and develop the aircell). Of the six fertile, 2 hatched at the beginning of day 20. Two were autolyzed (rotten, this includes the set late egg) on day 21, and two were in the “beak over right wing” malposition. I’ve read a little on this malposition, and it can be a “normal variant”, it can occur in rounder eggs (our CCL does lay round eggs), and can be due to hot incubation temps. Given that this hen just gave us 2/2 chicks a month ago, and that the survivors hatched a day early, I think that I need to consider my incubator being too hot. I do have a calibrated probe and it’s shown me that I have hot and cold spots. I tried to compensate by moving the eggs twice a day, and the average probe temp was 99.7, but I think I should turn the temp down 0.5 F for the guinea eggs that still have 2 weeks to go. Thanks everyone for all of your help and support. I’ll post pics of Naruto with her chicks once she decides to leave her nest!

What a sucky hatch :(
My shipped eggs have just gone into lockdown, 9 of 12 have made it to this point and a quick candle shows healthy embreyos (as far as i can tell). Its the malpositions that worry me now, the air cells were so bad they have been upright for the whole incubation with minimal movement and saddle shaped just doesnt do the actual myriad of shapes justice.
Still, i put ten of my own in there at the same time, 5 from a lovely jet black pullet called sambuca and and 5 from a HUGE pullet called grey goose who always gives me massive eggs, often with double yolks.
I was hoping to get a broody but unfortunaterly i think they are still too young as they were from a late hatch (late August) last year
Long three days now......... At least i get to read everyone elses success`s and failures, it helps keep things in perspective.
 
What a sucky hatch :(
My shipped eggs have just gone into lockdown, 9 of 12 have made it to this point and a quick candle shows healthy embreyos (as far as i can tell). Its the malpositions that worry me now, the air cells were so bad they have been upright for the whole incubation with minimal movement and saddle shaped just doesnt do the actual myriad of shapes justice.
Still, i put ten of my own in there at the same time, 5 from a lovely jet black pullet called sambuca and and 5 from a HUGE pullet called grey goose who always gives me massive eggs, often with double yolks.
I was hoping to get a broody but unfortunaterly i think they are still too young as they were from a late hatch (late August) last year
Long three days now......... At least i get to read everyone elses success`s and failures, it helps keep things in perspective.
Good luck!!!

No progress here thus morning, several more external pips!
 
@Knighstar679 how are your eggs??

My eggs that are due in about 6 days are still kicking. I did a candle last night and was thrilled to still see some pretty strong movement in them. I even saw some movement along the air cell but it was likely a wing or leg I can never tell at this stage.

Here are some pictures of my candling.

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