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Well that looks like a nasty thing. Does the vet thinks it an autoimmune or something else like from an infection? Sounds like getting him back on some steroids could help.

He's been checked for Lymes and other tick diseases?
 
oldhenlikesdogs said:
Well that looks like a nasty thing. Does the vet thinks it an autoimmune or something else like from an infection? Sounds like getting him back on some steroids could help.

He's been checked for Lymes and other tick diseases?
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Yeah, it's awful. Supposedly masticatory muscle myositis (MMM) is most common one in dogs but we happened to see something else recently, polymyositis and his symptoms kind of sound like that one too. But the other one is more common, especially in large breed dogs, and I'm not really sure. He hasn't been back since March but I am thinking of taking him for the eye and nose thing. But he didn't really say when he was first diagnosed last year. And idk if the bee sting caused it or if he was already developing it. I kind of think he'd already been developing it. But I think now with the frequency of infections (multiple eye, the skin one, ear, etc.) I think the disease is causing all of it so I guess possibly autoimmune? Still don't know what originally caused it though. I wonder if it is genetic. Or curable.

And I'm not sure, I don't think he's had a blood test in a while but we're gonna switch vets I think and also he's been on multiple courses antibiotics for all his infections. He doesn't really have many of the symptoms but idk. Still needs a blood test though I think. But we had a dog with lyme once that collapsed at the bottom or the stairs and couldn't even walk, wasn't even hungry and he would eat anything, but put him on meds and he was fine almost immediately. Gator has a bunch of the MMM symptoms
 
I feel especially bad about this part and most especially highlighted. If it's treatable and we didn't treat it right I'm gonna feel like *$&%

Treatment is usually with corticosteroids such as prednisone, often with decreasing doses for up to 4–6 months, and in the case of trismus, manual opening of the mouth under anesthesia.[6] Feeding very soft or liquid food during this time is usually necessary. The ultimate degree of recovery of jaw function and muscle mass will depend upon the extent of damage to the muscle tissue. Recurrence of MMM may occur.[7]
 
Picked up some bird seed today. Met a nice older couple in line that was also getting bird seed and started talking to them about birds lol they were getting the econony mix, what I should have done. The birds probably don't know the difference lol I also got two 20 pound ones rather than the 40 pound one because the smaller ones are easier to handle. I was going to get the bigger one when I noticed it cause it was two dollars cheaper than two 20s but a 40 pound bag is so heavy and awkward to handle plus it might go stale faster. I figure the extra money was worth it for that. I was trying to find a fake owl but couldn't find one.
 
Is there a reason Gator isn't on a low dose steroid long term? My one dog has an autoimmune disease that occasionally will flair up. She was on steroids for about 3 years before I stopped it. Now she's on a anti-itch pill which is working mostly.

I gotta buy bird seed soon. So far I just have some suet out.
 
oldhenlikesdogs said:
Is there a reason Gator isn't on a low dose steroid long term? My one dog has an autoimmune disease that occasionally will flair up. She was on steroids for about 3 years before I stopped it. Now she's on a anti-itch pill which is working mostly.

I gotta buy bird seed soon. So far I just have some suet out.
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I'm not really sure. I mean, he does need to go out way more but I think it'd be worth it. He really probably should be on steroids. I will ask. I think the vet didn't want him on them too long so it didn't upset his stomach but a low dose probably wouldn't hurt.


I love feeding them but have been slacking on it, the feeders have been empty for a while, so I figured I'd get some when I was there
 
I only feed the wild birds intentionally during the winter months. They sure can eat, and I get tons of them. Little piggies.

Steroids would make him feel better. I know it's a pain in the butt to go through that initial dosing with them peeling and drinking, but I was able to slowly cut mine back until she was taking a 1/4 of a pill like every 2 or 3 days.
 
oldhenlikesdogs said:
I only feed the wild birds intentionally during the winter months. They sure can eat, and I get tons of them. Little piggies.

Steroids would make him feel better. I know it's a pain in the butt to go through that initial dosing with them peeling and drinking, but I was able to slowly cut mine back until she was taking a 1/4 of a pill like every 2 or 3 days.
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Ours eat tons too although the squirrels and chipmunks get most of it! They're the real piggies lol I may start only feeding in winter though, it's cheaper and they plenty of food in summer especially since we're wooded but also have somewhat varied terrain and lots of berries.

Maybe we could eventually cut his back too
 

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