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Welcome Croney00
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So, you should come visit sometime...Come see our babies, we have quite a mixture. We aren't lucky enough to have enough land for a farm but we have plenty for chickens.

Oh yeah and don't forget to post lots of pics...We LOVE pics!
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Shelley I can bring you a goldfish...As long as I don't forget to stop and get it before I head over that way. I'll get it from our pet shop, they have healthier fish than Walmart and I know them, Cortni used to work for them. Good folks...Almost got him sold on Seramas as house pets, like parrots etcetera, but need to bring him a nice pair to show him.

Good morning everyone...and hope you all have a great day today!!! Cindy
 
Cindy ,
Hi woke up this morning to Coppers hatching love my new Genesis you recommend., it works great!
Leaving for show Fri. hoping my daughter can hold down the fort til Sun. She will have to care for chicks.
Was going to take the Coppers to sell but cant figure how to keep them warm enough till sold.
Can do it when I get back.
Can leave this incubator and go away its too neat.
P.S. the mixed egg half Copper and half BLRW just hatched can already see the comb is different still wet bet is going to be cute will have flicks next week when I get home.
 
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Meri I just keep on forgetting to say stuff...
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too early. I'll wait til after your company leaves to bring you some babies, feed and one of the brooder lights, have to keep the other til I bring the rest of the chicks. You keep the ones from my flock if you want them...So far it is a BR(unless it's a male then Bluedog gets him) and BTB Japanese, another BR is due on the 11th...Having an awful time getting the Millies to hatch and the ones from the Oct 22nd batch didn't even develop for some reason. Actually no one did from that day.

And Belle is laying on about 5 BTB Japs, because of Little Bit laying her eggs in Belles nest til I moved her nest, and one of her own and 2 Millies. Her own egg is due a few days to a week before the rest, staggered, hope she stays put or I'll have to bring the rest of the eggs in. If you don't want the Japs just sell them...Shelley may want some!! hehe

Well, lets hope for better hatches than the last one, because Ms. Lewis Rich sent me some really pretty eggs and I'd like to see those babies.
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Cindy

PS If I forgot to say something this time too bad, I'm taking my morning nap now.
 
Ms. Lewis Rich :

Cindy ,
Hi woke up this morning to Coppers hatching love my new Genesis you recommend., it works great!
Leaving for show Fri. hoping my daughter can hold down the fort til Sun. She will have to care for chicks.
Was going to take the Coppers to sell but cant figure how to keep them warm enough till sold.
Can do it when I get back.
Can leave this incubator and go away its too neat.
P.S. the mixed egg half Copper and half BLRW just hatched can already see the comb is different still wet bet is going to be cute will have flicks next week when I get home.

Glad you got one of those instead of the LG...I am having an awful time with the one being used for a hatcher, gonna have to add a blower to it to keep it stable before my eggs from you are due, don't want to lose them. Just lost a Silkie during it's hatch yesterday, didn't know it was having a hard time and was dead before I could get in there and help it, and had to help a Serama out because it's head was stuck to a small piece of dried sac and it couldn't move. The dumb hatcher keeps fluctuating for some reason. Serama is doing very well this morning...Gonna give it a few days then give it a warm bath to remove all the "Mousse" plastering it feathers down.

Bet that mix is really pretty, can't wait to see the pics.... will be here waiting
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I'm not sure you can disinfect for a virus. At least not in a chicken run. Bacteria maybe.

We are all exposed to bacteria, fungus, amobeia, viruses all the time and most are harmless unless we are under a large amount of stress. Our own gut is full of bacteria to the point that up to 80% of our poop is bacteria. Yogert and other probiotics are full of helpfull bacteria.

Several other diseases mimmic Coryza. could it be one of them instead? Lymphoid Luekosis is also simular to other viruses. How were these diseases diagnosed?

Sorry about all the questions but when something goes wrong health wise with chickens things go really wrong fast it seems. and we are all close enough to each other distance wise to keep an eye out for any outbreaks. etc.

I've looked up your diseases and here is what I have found.

"" Infectious Coryza
Infectious Coryza is caused by the haemophilus paragallinarum bacteria, and is very common worldwide in fowl.

Signs

Watery eyes
Facial swelling, including one or both eyes swelled shut
Foul smelling discharge from the nose

Diarrhea
Low egg production
Wheezing

Transmission
This is very contagious, and is easy spread by any kind of contact by sick, or carrier birds.
Diagnosis
The most common signs of this are facial swelling, including eyes swollen shut, with a fowl odor from the nasal area.
Treatment
Streptomycin Erythromycin Sulfadimethoxine
It is recommended to cull infected birds, as symptoms can come back after treatment, and all infected birds become carriers of this disease, and will continue to infect other fowl on your yard.

Lymphoid Leukosis
Characteristically, lymphoid leukosis is a disease of adult chickens; however, the disease appears to be increasing in importance for turkeys and game birds. Although the virus of lymphoid leukosis can produce various responses (blood, bone, lymph), the lymphoid tumor response is the most common.
The disease is transmitted in a variety of ways. The causative viral agent is passed out of the body of infected birds via eggs and feces. The virus may be transmitted mechanically from infected birds to susceptible by blood-sucking parasites or by man in such procedures as fowl pox vaccination.
Lymphoid leukosis characteristically produces lymphoid tumors, particularly in the liver and spleen. The tumors may also affect other visceral organs such as ovary and lungs. Affected birds may die without preliminary symptoms, but the disease usually is chronic in nature and affected birds show loss of appetite, progressive emaciation and diarrhea. Clinically affected birds invariably die. Losses due to the disease are most severe shortly after onset of egg production, but losses will continue for as long as the flock is retained. Total loss may approach twenty percent during the life of a flock.
Clinical diagnosis of lymphoid leukosis is based upon flock history and disease manifestations. The lymphoid disease cannot be readily distinguished from the visceral response to Marek's disease; however, there are some features that aid in differential diagnosis.
There is no treatment for lymphoid leukosis. Although the disease cannot be prevented completely, there are certain steps that can be taken to help control the level of infection within a flock. Some steps are:
Buy resistant strains of birds since genetic resistance is a deterrent,
Brood in isolation and do not mix birds of different ages, especially through six weeks of age,
Keep the incubator clean and disinfected,
Control blood-sucking parasites,
Good care, limiting stress, and adequate ration will be of benefit. ""


I still don't know how common they are here in Kentucky and/or if healthy birds are commonly exposed to them. Here is something we are all exposed to and is normally harmless:

Definition of Histoplasma
Histoplasma: Full name: histoplasma capsulatum; a microscopic fungus that causes the disease histoplasmosis. The fungus is found throughout the world in river valleys and soil where bird or bat droppings accumulate. The spores of the fungus are released into the air when contaminated soil is disturbed (for example, by plowing fields, sweeping chicken coops, or digging holes) and the airborne spores can then be inhaled into the lungs, the primary site of infection. In the US, the fungus is so common that in parts of Kentucky and Tennessee nearly 90% of adults show evidence of exposure by a positive histoplasma skin test. The fungus can be transferred by organ transplantation.

Last Editorial Review: 8/25/2003

Definition of Histoplasmosis
Histoplasmosis: A disease caused by the fungus Histoplasma capsulatum. Most people with histoplasmosis have no symptoms. However, histoplasma can cause acute or chronic lung disease and progressive disseminated histoplasmosis affecting a number of organs. It can be fatal if untreated.
Positive skin tests to Histoplasma occur in as many as 80% of the people living in areas where the fungus is common, such as the eastern and central United States. Infants, young children, and older persons, in particular those with chronic lung disease are at increased risk for severe disease. Disseminated disease is more frequently seen in people with cancer or AIDS.
The fungus grows in soil and material contaminated with bat or bird droppings. Spores become airborne when contaminated soil is disturbed. Breathing the spores causes infection. The disease is not transmitted from an infected person to someone else.
Symptoms start within 3 to 17 days after exposure; the average is 10 days. The acute respiratory disease is characterized by respiratory symptoms, a general ill feeling, fever, chest pains, and a dry or nonproductive cough. Distinct patterns may be seen on a chest x-ray. Chronic lung disease resembles tuberculosis and can worsen over months or years. The disseminated form is fatal, unless treated.
Mild cases resolve without treatment. Severe cases of acute histoplasmosis and all cases of chronic and disseminated disease are treated with antifungal medications, usually for life in those with compromised immune systems.

Last Editorial Review: 7/29/2002

I'll try to answer some of these questions...I was one of the unfortunate people who also bought birds from the same man, but mine were rehomed yesterday
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The diseases were diagnosed through a necropsy performed by UK http://www.lddc.uky.edu/index.asp so we are sure of the diagnosis. I've spoken with a man who is in charge of the avian research department and this is what I've learned...

*Avian leukosis is not specific to any particular region and it's not uncommon. Some birds can have some natural resistance or immunity but once exposed they will be carriers and shedders of the illness. Those that are affected with the disease develop aggressive cancer and tumors that spread throughout the body and manifest outwardly as skin lesions.

*The eggs are safe to eat although production may be negatively affected in infected birds.

*The meat is safe to eat unless during processing you discover a bird with skin lesions.

*IC is spread fairly easily and has a wide range of symptoms. Eggs are safe to consume and IC is considered a common, chronic ailment.
 
Wow - nothing all weekend, practially, then WHAM on Monday ya all come out to post.
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OK, let's see if I can hit the high points in one post, cause I got to leave soon to get a hay rake - if I forget anything I'll post again when I get back....

Cindy - don't bother waiting til company's gone, LOL I have no idea when they'll even show up - they may have to wait til next month. You can't pin Jake down on anything. Besides, this time of year, I may have folks drop in from out of state at any time. I am the vacation spot, now, LOL cause I got the farm and I'm "out of state" (well, their state, anyway) enough to be a vacation. So come on over anytime (just call first, I been busy). I have the tarps - just have to hang them still, and I'll be putting the babies into the sewing room at first anyway, so no problem there.
Oh, and yeah, I'm liking the japs better than the oegb, so I'll take the japs, too. I'm considering selling off or swapping all the oegb.

Croney00 - welcome !!! another cochin fan
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they are always welcome. (well, everyone else is too - but cochin folks are possible swaps further down the line,
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I have a definate quad, plus two extra roos of bantam cochins. I think I'm going to leave the quad as - Etta (black) Nana (black) Diva (splash black/white) and Rudy (splash black/white roo). The extra roos I have are James - a red blue (his blue is dark blue, must be from a black pairing there, somewhere) and Hoss a white, but he also has some buff color on him and some columbian coloring (very little) in his tail.
I have large cochin eggs in the bator - got two weeks to go on those. The large cochins are from light colored splash parents, with a lot of light blues in the mix. Can't wait to see those!!!

I have to go to get that rake, so I'm gonna have to finish this post when I get back this afternoon.

Oh, btw - cute chicken thing of the day -
I didn't give treats right off this morning, came in here to make a wire transfer from the bank - so Mooney came up on the porch, and into the living room looking for me. Hubby couldn't believe it
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He says "I always thought chickens were really skittish - these ones think they own the place and we're their slaves" I said "yeah, that's about right".
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Meri
 
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I don't actually have my turkeys yet, but they will be penned up by themselves when I do get them. I have heard too many bad things about them living with chickens. Most of my chickens free range at the moment, but I am building a coop soon, so then the only free rangers will be the guineas. I can't let my bunnies run around, too many rabbit dogs here that would just LOVE that!! There is a pup about 4 months old that so desperately wants to go hunting and a mix about 8 years old that will chase just about anything. She might leave them alone if we caught her trying to get them but she would probably have one killed by the time we would catch her. She's not used to pet rabbits at all!

You might want to try kentuckysilkies for the silkies. And there was a post on here a few weeks ago in the BST forum from someone in Lexington I believe that had young ones for sale. I only have 7, and 6 of those are babies, so I'm not sure what the sex of them is yet. Meri is a cochinaholic, but hers are still in egg form, most of them anyway!
 
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I'll take your little red pyle hen!!! And dad would probably take the BBRed hens for his little roo! Let me know before you get rid of them!
 
We are in South Central Kentucky. I am looking for meat rabbits in the fryer size range of about 4.75 lbs to 5.5 lbs live weight. I see that some of you have rabbits. What type do you raise? Would you be willing to sell your fryers? I am located on the Warren/Barren County line in Kentucky. Thanks.
 
I'm not sure how big mine are. My dad says they are about the right size. I don't have any extras right now, but was thinking of breeding them. I have heard that they need to be bred by 1 year old, and I'm not sure how old mine are. They are all about the same size. One of the does is a dutch, if you know how big they are. They should be about 5 lbs or so. Let me know if you would be interested, and I can put them together for a bit. It takes 30 days to gestate, and then they would be big enough to leave mama at a month or so, so it would be a few months before they are big enough to eat. I am on the east side of Columbia/Adair county. Let me know.
 

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