@Sapphire Sebright you ask, so here's my fact based cold stretching. Was working in 100°+ weather & humidity went about 50% and kept raising as the sun went down... Heat index showed 108(?)iirc
Kiddo just took these as a "baseline" in case I can show up tomorrow night with significant stretching beforehand.....
Knees are so close to touching the floor in both of these (I didn't ccheat and try to force them)
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This is the standing split 1st attempt
Note how stuff my thighs and calves are
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The hands flat likely not as good as 'Bee'
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And the proof of how close I've gotten in the 2 years post surgery to doing the splits..... The serious lack of strength and stamina is killing me.....
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Those are my kiddos kneecaps at bottom of pic, she was sitting on table.