Killing Horses for Humans to Eat!

[Carols Clucks]

Horse Meat is usually sent to other countries or used in pet food in the US. Not something you found prior to 2007 in the local grocery store meat case.

 

[deerman]

First the banned , drove the horse price down, so bad people couldn't give them away. One of my late freind would go buy them at Auctions for killers. He would get 1.00 a lbs live weight....alot of horse meat was shipped oversea.

Mark my word , once horse can be butcher , the prices of horse will be right back up to a thousand dollar each. Sad to see a horse sell for like 10.00 , people buying them couldn't even pay for their upkeep.

Like the free kittens and puppy , people who can afford them, take them.


Truth is if prices get back up, people spending 1,000 on a horse will take better care of them.

Now as far as the horse giving more meds. don't think that is so, ivomec is used on cattle as much as horse.


Myself i wouldn't eat horse meat, the banned on killing horse was a big mistake , Our goverment not knowing what the heck they are doing again.

Another fact a pig makes as a good pet as any horse, even can be house broke. I had a pig as a pet , even being 600 lbs. So those reason used to not permit horse from being kill ,could be used for pigs,cattle,sheep,and goats...see how easy a lamb can be a pet.

 

[Jay262]

Oddly enough my 5 year old daughter asked me this morning if we can eat horses she must have been reading this thread

I now know i can tell her tommorow sweetheart yes yes we can.

 

[deerman]

Maybe people would feel better if meat was called something else.


pigs=pork

cattle/cow = beef

calf = veal

pigeon=squab

and so for........

 

[LiLRedCV]

Quote:
As opposed to what? Horses standing in backyards, farms and ranches starving slowly to death because there is no place for them? If they are not being slaughtered something still has to be done with them.

Euthanasia costs $150-$200 on average not to mention removal of a body. Not much of an option for people who need to get rid of their horses for financial reasons. It cost me $300 to have a horse moved and buried after a bout of colic this spring. That's not even counting a euthanasia/vet bill.

Giving away a horse in pretty much impossible these days, even more so if you have an old, unstable or just plain old unusable one.

This past year I became the owner of 2 registered Appy mares and a registered Paint colt, all for free. I was the last choice for all these guys before auction where they surly would have gone to slaughter and at least brought in a few hundred bucks for their struggling owners. Luckily the previous owners/breeders cared enough not to send them to auction.

Maybe the real fight is with all the backyard breeding going on...I have a horse...it has a uterus...must get foal...but what happens when that foal is no longer small and cute and needs some serious training that the average backyard horseowner can not provide? Off to auction....

Or even 'professional' type breeders...My paint colt came from a woman who made quite a name for herself in the horse world. She retired as she got older and was no longer able to compete due to old back injuries. She purchased a half dozen OTTB mares with great bloodlines and conformation for her sport and a big, rockin' Paint stud. Started breeding babies...Then low and behold! There was no market for her animals. Despite their pedigrees and training (and color!) they were just not selling...So she started giving them away.

Or how about the racing industry itself? Thousands of animals going for slaughter yearly

So my point is I think its the overbreeding that's going on that's the real issue here...Not slaughter itself... After all if slaughter was not an option all of those horses have to be reabsorbed into the economy/community...Which leads to horses starving/being neglected...Much worse IMO.

Well put! Not to mention that when the original slaughterhouses for horses were closed here in the states due to the previous law passing making it illegal, many jobs were lost. Right now, a majority of the horses sold at auctions go to slaughter either in Canada or Mexico and the meat is shipped overseas. By making it legal here again, this will help generate much needed jobs in an extremely poor economy - which can help those in current financial distress and have horses be able to afford to keep them.

 

[LiLRedCV]

Quote:
Makes sense to me. We feed culled Canada geese to the homeless in many cities across the nation. We have far more feral cats and dogs on the streets than we'll ever have of geese flying about. Euthanizing them and then disposing of the carcasses by incineration or landfill is a waste of a good potential resource. There are ALWAYS going to be irresponsible owners out there which compound the problems with animals (big or small). Not sure I'd eat the "household pet" varieties myself, but I guess if I'm desperate enough I would.

 

[wbruder17]

I didn't say that. I believe you mis-quoted.

 

[LiLRedCV]

Quote:
You're correct. I misquoted and I sincerely apologize for it. I had originally clipped this for the quote and then accidentally removed the wrong section. Honestly didn't mean to do that. But I still agree with the original poster of the actual quote. (which is below)



Quote:
Sure. Feed cats and doggs to the hungry people. Whatever. I don't want to see it in the supermarket. And the outrage in this country if we started to eat dogs and cats would be outrageous. I feel the same about horses.

 

[zzGypsy]

Quote:
I raise goats and sheep for milk and meat. and I have horses. if I look in my medicine cabinet, I see many more drugs that I've used on horses than on my sheep and goats... I don't know the meat withdrawl time on the horse-only drugs because I've never had to think about it, but I do know there are classes of stuff in there that I don't use on my food production animals. part of my medication decisions on the food animals is always effect on me or my dogs should we have to cull, as well as milk or slaughter withdrawl times. if I were raising horses for meat, I'd probably be making some different decisions about medication... don't know for sure, but my vet-medicine cabinet suggests it's true.

I've got one problem child horse... he's probably got a digestive stone, based on several rounds of severe colic and some other factors. he's allergic to all sorts of things he might eat, breaks out in hives with most fly sprays, has chronic lameness because of stifle issues, and seems to be the disaster prone one in my herd. he's beautifu, sweet, and young, but one of these days long before old age I'm probably going to have to put him down because I can't save him, or can't keep him comfortable. knowing that, I have started to ask about meat useability when I treat him for anything. when that time comes, I won't be eating him, but I'd like to be able to feed his remains to my dogs. he's 1600 lbs and even after processing that's a LOT of dog food. aside from that, the waste of burrying him instead of letting him serve one more purpose bothers me. it seems to me the spirit of the animal is more honored by being of service than by being wasted. it's the same reason I'm an organ doner.

maybe I should be asking that same question about medications on me as well...

 

[frostbite]

As far as organ donation goes, any medications you are on are probably tested and considered safe for use on human beings, so assuming you would be donating organs to another human, you're probably fine. I think the issue with meds and organ donation is more a function of what medical condition you have that is being treated by the meds. LIke, if you are on chemo for invasive cancer, you're less likely to be donor material, not because of the chemo, but because of the cancer.

I wouldn't worry about it.

However, don't eat the Soylent Green!