Lacing genetics and barring? Is this bird barred?

[DemeterAD9]

Needing to know for future breeding plans. How dominant is the lacing gene? I have a silver laced Wyandotte pullet who I would like to hatch from to get some more laced birds but wonder if it's a lost cause.

I also have a crested cream legbar EE mix (assumed maran mix) who has the general feather coloration of a pure crested cream legbar hen. Would you say she is barred and therefore able to make sex linked chicks? From what I can tell only the fluffy rump feathers may have barring.

Then there's this BYM who I do not know any genetics of other than she hatched from a green egg. Would you say she is barred and laced? Possibility of sex linked chicks from her too?

 

[Amer]

Lacing is caused by the Pattern Gene along with a few other genes that are all considered dominant. While they are considered dominant, in their heterozygous forms, they do not express as clean of lacing.
Concentric pencilling on the Brahma is caused by the Pattern Gene on a partridge base.
Legbars are always barred. Barring doesn't show up as well on a duckwing base.

 

[Amer]

https://birdgenetics.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F752679042890727424

Here is more information on the pattern gene

 

[DemeterAD9]

A bit of a follow up, results of breeding the barred/laced girl, the legbar X and another blue/grey OE sold as a sapphire olive egger (possibly legbar X as well judging from crest and faint barring). I only hatched 9 possible sex linked eggs, there’s another 16 from other hens. Most of the chicks I hatched have feathered legs despite not all hens having them so looks like my main man, a blue copper maran, did most the work. If not him then it would be the BJG rooster. I’m not sure how apparent the head spot should be showing up on lightly barred birds or specific color combos. I’m guessing if there is just a smudge of color on the head then it’s a male.

First the 4 chicks from the barred/laced hen. Looks like 2 boys and 2 girls, one of either color. 2 have feathered legs. I hope the 2 girls take after their mom and show some pretty lacing.

Now the legbar X’s. Three on the left are from the grey OE, 2 on the right are from the legbar looking one. Only one girl from the grey OE, terrible odds! Oh well, they’ll be raised with some Cornish X as meat birds.

I’m hoping there’s a least one out of 19 hens in the flock that wants to go broody, that way I can justify hatching more colored eggs. I’d like more colored layers and my odds aren’t great. I hatched 10 colored eggs, 5 being the legbar Xs and with only 1 being female and then there’s another 5 OE/EE… I’ll be lucky to get 4 females total and statistically only half are likely to lay a colored egg. Anyways, if the genders happen to be wrong I’ll be back with another update.

Edit: I forgot to talk about the lacing. I also hatched a SLW egg, currently it’s just a generic black chick. We’ll see how it turns out and if any lacing shows up.

And 2 dark brahma eggs were hatched along with one buff. I know the lightest one is from the DB but I can’t remember if the black one or the other grey one is from the buff. I may find out once they get some real feathers.

And I added more patterned birds to the flock to play with. A BBS red laced Wyandotte, golden cuckoo maran, and a barnevelder. All pullet chicks currently but if all goes well, next spring I’ll be playing with more colors and patterns.

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

Lacing can easily disappear in a first generation cross, especially if crossing to a black or birchen chicken (blue copper marans are blue red birchen), so I would be prepared for that. The best way to retain lacing is to cross the offspring back to the fully laced birds or cross the offspring together. (This applies even if the offspring don’t have any visible lacing.)

 

[DemeterAD9]

Update on the chicks’ patterns.
First the dark brahma chick, only one showed some patterning. I don’t think it’s a pullet but I’m not certain yet.

Here’s mom to compare

The barred/laced hen’s daughters are interesting. They have a dark head with the birchen-like patterning around the neck. The better pullet has more patterning on her breast and shoulders.

Surprisingly my OE mutt hen gave me these 2 neat looking birds I’m thinking the silver one is a cockerel. Their mom looks like the gold pullet.

The SLW chick is a cockerel and all black. I got my wish for a broody hen, I’m fact I got 2! So now there is a new chick from the SLW hen under a broody, black like before. It will be a month or so before I can tell what it will look like.