Landrace/adaptive breeding discussion

[BlindLemonChicken]

I also breed to deaden their catch drive. I won’t have a high-octane bulldog with a true bulldog’s prey drive as a family pet.

This ended up being the reason our bulldog had to move to Canada. His prey drive extended to squeaky toddlers. I don’t believe he intended to bite but being toppled by a 100+ lb dog is unacceptable. Not to mention my pug wouldn’t submit to him and that was a recipe for disaster I still can’t believe that fat little snort-face repeatedly started fights with something four times his size or that he could get his bread loaf body airborne to do it.

 

[LaurenRitz]

Then they become flock protectors in their maturity. I think these will be the same.

I sincerely hope so. The neighbor has 3 pitbulls left. The other two are feeding trees in my yard. I don't relish killing another one, but I will if necessary.

 

[Florida Bullfrog]

I sincerely hope so. The neighbor has 3 pitbulls left. The other two are feeding trees in my yard. I don't relish killing another one, but I will if necessary.

Pits are a little different than the more English types I breed. They have as much terrier in them as they do original bulldog. Ever see a terrier go ratting? Pairing the blood lust of the old-time bulldogs to terriers made a fearsome combination.

You can make a good bulldog dangerous by poor raising. You can never make a bad bulldog safe with good raising. If your neighbors have pits that cause problems, they probably always will. I group American pit bull terriers and their derivatives in with bulldogs because they carry a lot of the old time bulldog in them. But they’re really a different creature because of the terrier infusion. I understand a bulldog’s mentality better than a pit’s. Pits seem more unpredictable and veiled in their danger. I can spot a dangerous American or Old English bulldog a mile away. They come out dangerous as puppies. Pits seem to be fine until they’re not.

Added to the confusion is loose use of “pit.” There was a time that all athletic bulldogs were called “pits.” Mine would be called pits. Today we generally use “pit” to describe pit bull terriers and derivative mixes. And I do use pit in the background of mine. I also use mastiffs of various breeds. I just bury it deep behind English genes.

 

[LaurenRitz]

That's my concern. I told him when it started that they needed to be socialized and trained. Now they're six months old and he can't figure out why they don't obey him. Because you're not part of their pack. Duh.

They treat any improvements to the kennel like a challenge. I think he needs shock collars with geo-fencing.

Pitts are amazing, intelligent animals, but if they're not trained they can be a holy terror.

 

[Florida Bullfrog]

That's my concern. I told him when it started that they needed to be socialized and trained. Now they're six months old and he can't figure out why they don't obey him. Because you're not part of their pack. Duh.

They treat any improvements to the kennel like a challenge. I think he needs shock collars with geo-fencing.

Pitts are amazing, intelligent animals, but if they're not trained they can be a holy terror.

Late puppyhood is a pit’s most dangerous time. Its usually older pit puppies that do child maulings. Their catch drive is coming in and their life experience and self control is lacking.

 

[LaurenRitz]

As far as I know there are no children within half a mile, but there are goats, calves, and chickens.

I carry my shotgun.