Langshan Thread!!!

[Illia]

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The silver gene comes from a solid blue on blue mateing. The wind was blowing a little bit but I caught the pic when he turned his head and it turned out to be a great pic.

I don't believe that is the silver gene, the silver gene refers to a white bird, specifically one that is sex-linked. The blue x blue breeding resulting in a black bird MAY result in a bird more able to produce blues when bred to another such bird. I have never done the back to back breeding, so I'm unsure as to the truthfulness of the statement.

The silver gene is white replacing gold.

So for a bird with no gold, like Blues and Blacks, you cannot see it. However it is indeed true - Most if not all blues carry silver instead of gold.

If you bred them to a, say, Gold Laced - You'll notice offspring that are silver and black and some that are gold and black.

Love the birds, people.

I'm slowly getting my family interested in Langshans.

It's a slow process.

 

[Cydney83]

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I don't believe that is the silver gene, the silver gene refers to a white bird, specifically one that is sex-linked. The blue x blue breeding resulting in a black bird MAY result in a bird more able to produce blues when bred to another such bird. I have never done the back to back breeding, so I'm unsure as to the truthfulness of the statement.

The silver gene is white replacing gold.

So for a bird with no gold, like Blues and Blacks, you cannot see it. However it is indeed true - Most if not all blues carry silver instead of gold.

If you bred them to a, say, Gold Laced - You'll notice offspring that are silver and black and some that are gold and black.

Love the birds, people.

I'm slowly getting my family interested in Langshans.

It's a slow process.

ok..dumb ? Why would you want silver in the blue langshans?.. Is anyone going to Crossroads show with Langshans?. Also if you have blue and breed them..do you get B/B/S? Just wondering..prob wrong thread to ask..just jumped into my thoughts?..

 

[Illia]

Okay, let me explain -


ALL chickens have either the silver gene or the gold gene. It's what differs silver laced from gold laced; silver penciled from partridge; light columbian from buff columbian, silver duckwing from BBR, I could go on.

Blues have one or the other too, but since they do not have any "gold" to show, just diluted black, you don't see it. Most blues though have silver, however some do have gold and some males have both (which is why some leaky birds have red or yellow leakage) It does not interfere with the BBS breeding at all.

 

[Cydney83]

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Ok...understand...but why would it be desirable to want or say you have silver in the blue?..will it make a new color...

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

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Ok...understand...but why would it be desirable to want or say you have silver in the blue?..will it make a new color...

No, it won't make a new color, it's just more desirable to have it in the blues because the gold or red won't leak into the feathers and show in the plumage.

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

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The silver gene is white replacing gold.

So for a bird with no gold, like Blues and Blacks, you cannot see it. However it is indeed true - Most if not all blues carry silver instead of gold.

If you bred them to a, say, Gold Laced - You'll notice offspring that are silver and black and some that are gold and black.

Love the birds, people.

I'm slowly getting my family interested in Langshans.

It's a slow process.

ok..dumb ? Why would you want silver in the blue langshans?.. Is anyone going to Crossroads show with Langshans?. Also if you have blue and breed them..do you get B/B/S? Just wondering..prob wrong thread to ask..just jumped into my thoughts?..

Feel free to jump in! All are welcome!

Theoretically, when you breed the color "Andalusian Blue" to another "Andalusian Blue" you will get B/B/S. HOWEVER, I have NEVER gotten a splash bird from this breeding. But then, I'm unlucky and have birds die after, um, over-exerting themselves in the breeder pen. How hard is it to take a freakin' breather?!

Not going to Crossroads, work won't permit it. I've taken too much time off to get married, buy birds, move to a new state...

 

[skylinepoultry]

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The silver gene comes from a solid blue on blue mateing. The wind was blowing a little bit but I caught the pic when he turned his head and it turned out to be a great pic.

I don't believe that is the silver gene, the silver gene refers to a white bird, specifically one that is sex-linked. The blue x blue breeding resulting in a black bird MAY result in a bird more able to produce blues when bred to another such bird. I have never done the back to back breeding, so I'm unsure as to the truthfulness of the statement.

No, no,no your taking it all wrong. Solid blue langshans and their off spring will carry S/S (silver Gene) instead of s+/s+ (gold/wildtype) or S/s+ (golden). Where as a regular black Langshan that's NOT from a blue on blue mateing will carry s+/s+ (gold/wildtype) and not S/S (silver). Am I making more sense now. I just went back and read the thread. Illia hit it on the nose. Thanks for explaining.

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

I was confused, originally I thought you meant something else entirely as I'm used to the production industry term of Silver.

If black birds from the blue breeding are S/S. Then why have I had the misfortune of having birds come through with in the blues?

If all birds from that pairing come through with S/S, wouldn't the copper lacing be non-existent? Genetics is not something that greatly interests me, so pardon my lack of knowledge in this department.

 

[Cydney83]

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ok..dumb ? Why would you want silver in the blue langshans?.. Is anyone going to Crossroads show with Langshans?. Also if you have blue and breed them..do you get B/B/S? Just wondering..prob wrong thread to ask..just jumped into my thoughts?..

Feel free to jump in! All are welcome!

Theoretically, when you breed the color "Andalusian Blue" to another "Andalusian Blue" you will get B/B/S. HOWEVER, I have NEVER gotten a splash bird from this breeding. But then, I'm unlucky and have birds die after, um, over-exerting themselves in the breeder pen. How hard is it to take a freakin' breather?!

Not going to Crossroads, work won't permit it. I've taken too much time off to get married, buy birds, move to a new state...

Well, those are good reason for not going!!! Congrats and best wishes... Ok...I think I got it...now I NEED THE BIRDS! lol..my 2 isn't enough...I think I am going to let the BLRW go and just have Coronation/light Sussex and LANGSHANS!!!!

 

[PetRock]

My Blue Langshan Bijou is 32 weeks old and just now at POL. I saw her in a nest box the other day standing over a small, light brown egg with speckles on it. It was not warm so I'm not sure if it was hers or not. Do Langshans lay speckled eggs? She is my first Langshan and I'm anxiously waiting for her eggs.