Langshan Thread!!!

[cluckcluckluke]

We dont know how systematic they are in their breeding programme, but if it was not for the fact that eggs from China is out of the question, I would have loved to try and cross them in on my lines. The big qustion is though, the chickens that Major Croad imported in 1872, is there any left somewhere in the country, feathered legs and all? Opens a can of worms..........Smart little farm, though?

Whats wrong with Chinese imported fertile eggs???

 

[thorleif]

Cluckie: There is nothing wrong with Chinese eggs, but you would not be able to import eggs from there. They are troubled by birdflu, so you tell the American Ministry of Agriculture you've got eggs from China, and they'll have FBI on you within 3 minutes.
Yes, Mikaela, I assume you mean that cock on that Swedish blokes shoulder? That stock was imported from Germany, and they (especally the cocks) are way too small, struggling to top 9 pounds. And what did the Germans do when their Croad Langshans became a bit too small? Yup, they re-wrote the Standard. I sold some eggs to Denmark (and Norway) last year, and when the Germans saw them, they could not believe the size, and when you cross German stock with British, they get bigger again. Croad Langshan only has very few breeders in Germany, and they have plodded on with their own stock since the 1950's, but hopefully within a few years now, they will be able to exange some hatching-eggs, and thereby blood. By the way, those Swedish people, I think her name was Mikaela too, they have not got any of their Croads left, as they could not find any Brits willing to exhange stock/eggs with them, as Sweden is restricted with poultry, because of Newcastles disease. Difficult world? Tell me about it. We imported a cock from Germany a few years back, and it really worked.

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

Whats wrong with Chinese imported fertile eggs???

thorleif got it! Avian Flu, Newcastle...it just runs rampant over there. No way to bring the end to importing birds and eggs than to bring in a bird from a Chinese run operation.

That, and unfortunately, the birds there have started to lose the looks of the birds that are here. They are bred more for production than to the standard they used to have at that point.

I'm sure some breeders have the old stock that looks true to type, but buying from one of those companies, I just can't see any "good" birds coming from it.


How interesting! A person from Sweden with my name!

 

[thorleif]

Yeah, you are a bit of a rare-breed, are'nt you?

 

[cluckcluckluke]

Cluckie: There is nothing wrong with Chinese eggs, but you would not be able to import eggs from there. They are troubled by birdflu, so you tell the American Ministry of Agriculture you've got eggs from China, and they'll have FBI on you within 3 minutes.
Yes, Mikaela, I assume you mean that cock on that Swedish blokes shoulder? That stock was imported from Germany, and they (especally the cocks) are way too small, struggling to top 9 pounds. And what did the Germans do when their Croad Langshans became a bit too small? Yup, they re-wrote the Standard. I sold some eggs to Denmark (and Norway) last year, and when the Germans saw them, they could not believe the size, and when you cross German stock with British, they get bigger again. Croad Langshan only has very few breeders in Germany, and they have plodded on with their own stock since the 1950's, but hopefully within a few years now, they will be able to exange some hatching-eggs, and thereby blood. By the way, those Swedish people, I think her name was Mikaela too, they have not got any of their Croads left, as they could not find any Brits willing to exhange stock/eggs with them, as Sweden is restricted with poultry, because of Newcastles disease. Difficult world? Tell me about it. We imported a cock from Germany a few years back, and it really worked.

thorleif got it! Avian Flu, Newcastle...it just runs rampant over there. No way to bring the end to importing birds and eggs than to bring in a bird from a Chinese run operation.

That, and unfortunately, the birds there have started to lose the looks of the birds that are here. They are bred more for production than to the standard they used to have at that point.

I'm sure some breeders have the old stock that looks true to type, but buying from one of those companies, I just can't see any "good" birds coming from it.


How interesting! A person from Sweden with my name!

thorleif got it! Avian Flu, Newcastle...it just runs rampant over there. No way to bring the end to importing birds and eggs than to bring in a bird from a Chinese run operation.

That, and unfortunately, the birds there have started to lose the looks of the birds that are here. They are bred more for production than to the standard they used to have at that point.

I'm sure some breeders have the old stock that looks true to type, but buying from one of those companies, I just can't see any "good" birds coming from it.


How interesting! A person from Sweden with my name!

Oh i dont like the sound of any of that, so in the Poultry section China just trades/sticks with its self.

 

[thorleif]

Quote:
"That, and unfortunately, the birds there have started to lose the looks of the birds that are here. They are bred more for production than to the standard they used to have at that point."

Yes, it seems so, but we dont know for what reason. There is no doubt that they are closely related, so I will have as a guess that a cross, and then selective breeding for a while might be successful. But, and a BIG BUT at that, maybe they (the Chinese) would benefit more if they crossed in Langshan-blood from either the US or Europe? Mindboggling, but interresting???????

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

It is probably simply what has happened over here with all the other breeds. To me, those facilities are very, very similar to a commercial hatchery over here. The difference is that they are simply breeding birds to breed them and "say" they are Langshans. They are no longer following a standard for them. Just breeding to continue the bloodlines.

 

[thorleif]

Yes, you could easily be right. I hope you are not. Of course we dont know the knowledge of the people thet has been running that place since the 1950's? When you read about the "Shanghais" that were imported, both to UK and US in the 1850's, they sound much like Langshans.

 

[msladyhawke]

Hi, my name is Michelle and I have a confession to make:



I am addicted to Langshan chicks

This little one hatched under a broody hen this morning to my surprise and delight:

and below next to one that hatched from my incubator early last week:


And, I'd like to also mention that a big part of this addiction is RoPo's fault!!!!!

That is all.

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

LOL! I plead the 5th!!!

What's best? You can keep those age groups together! LOL!! I have hens that will take a chick that is the same age or under the age of the chicks they hatch out. LOVE that in them!

yay for Violet!!! I bet she wasn't too happy with you taking her baby for picture time!


thorleif, I have a question. Do you know if Asians HAVE breed standards for their birds? I can't think of anyone off hand from China or Shanghai that actually breed towards a standard on here. It's just a generalization, but it could be the basis of the problem for a lack of uniformity in their birds?