I've got a few pics of the surviving babies. Just quick snaps, not very good.
Lavender patterned Isabel duckwing barred - lavender brown cuckoo barred - project and genetic dis
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ahhh -- Thanks for posting. The babies are getting BIG aren't they! Real nice barring on the ones that are showing barring....yay.
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Seems like the only times I can even be out there are ultra early and just before sundown. Everytime I see a cloud covering the sun, I do a happy dance. Hopefully all of our chickens will make it through the heat!
I think I have three isabels and three splits left. I thought there were two pullets and a cockerel of each, but now it looks more like two cockerels and a pullet of each. I really love that brassy, super saturated little fellow.
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It will be so interesting to see him grow out. Hope you get to post a lot of picts!
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Right now -- i'm rethinking my whole breeding approach. Rather than the modified form of spiral mating that I had originally been thinking, I'm considering straight brother-sister pairing.
Studying up on what is said -- and from some perspectives it is advisable. If I have -- Robinson family for high egg production, Twin family for best coloration and Jackon family for best type -- what would happen if they were inbred - or line bred.
Looking into cosanguinity -- etc. and the downsides.
Probably will 'hedge my bets' and pair some of each.
Biggest thing too -- is that I'm planning to only hatch from the females that show that straw-cream --- what ever color you want to call it in the hackles. That accounts for about 4 pullets, with 2 that are borderline. (sort of cream hackles)
Since some of them aren't even laying it's still really early. I plan to not set eggs until the pullet eggs are just about 2oz. Because overly large eggs are impressive etc...it can be a draw to try to get REALLY big eggs... but recipies expect just a normal large sized egg -- 2oz.
UK experts say wait until the pullet has passed the 1-year mark before setting her eggs...but who knows who of us will still be around when they pass the 1-year mark.
Anyone doing line-breeding, has done line-breeding, is considering it, has an opinion and wants to express a view on it, please post - I wonder what others think.
It's supposed to both amplify the assets and uncover the flaws.
ETA - edited this about 5 times -- having trouble with English grammar today.
Studying up on what is said -- and from some perspectives it is advisable. If I have -- Robinson family for high egg production, Twin family for best coloration and Jackon family for best type -- what would happen if they were inbred - or line bred.
Looking into cosanguinity -- etc. and the downsides.
Probably will 'hedge my bets' and pair some of each.
Biggest thing too -- is that I'm planning to only hatch from the females that show that straw-cream --- what ever color you want to call it in the hackles. That accounts for about 4 pullets, with 2 that are borderline. (sort of cream hackles)
Since some of them aren't even laying it's still really early. I plan to not set eggs until the pullet eggs are just about 2oz. Because overly large eggs are impressive etc...it can be a draw to try to get REALLY big eggs... but recipies expect just a normal large sized egg -- 2oz.
UK experts say wait until the pullet has passed the 1-year mark before setting her eggs...but who knows who of us will still be around when they pass the 1-year mark.
Anyone doing line-breeding, has done line-breeding, is considering it, has an opinion and wants to express a view on it, please post - I wonder what others think.
It's supposed to both amplify the assets and uncover the flaws.
ETA - edited this about 5 times -- having trouble with English grammar today.
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Big Drumroll please -------
A couple of milestones IMO.
First, in the pen of the oldest chickens in my project.... (Bart, Barbara, Pearl, the split and the two pullets from the first 'Twin' series) -- day-before-yesterday -- it was 5 for 5 -- so all those pullets are laying.
Second -- if you are like me and you can't get enough good information about these wonderful plumage patterned birds -- there is a facebook group started by CJWaldon:
a Facebook group called "Opal Legbar Fan Club"
So here it is just hot. It's too hot for anything.
This morning three pullets went to a new home and I didn't even get their pictures... One of the pullets was Pearl.
Bart didn't approve of his sister being taken away with much squwaking and drama -- and later when I was putting out feed - he attacked me. Really, I kind of see it as him just doing his 'protect my flock role', as much as him going rogue. It was also kind of the big green feedscoop that he attacked...I just happened to be holding it. He's in time-out now -- and I don't think I will put him back with the hens tonight.
Here are some recent pictures:
above is Silver Jackson -- what a handsome dude.
Here's BB (Backup Boy) Robinson -- he seems to have more saturation than his brother Bart.... Some posts back under the discussion of coloration and the way light refracts in the coats of those specific horses -- if you look at BB's saddle feathers you see the beginnings of that glowing light-refraction.
Here's Bart, in the dog-house....and here is is a bit earlier:
Bart had a split-tail/squirrel tail thing going on for a little while there -- he seems to have grown past it. One reason I like this particular profile of him is it kind of looks like all the artwork you see of roosters. LOL
Here is the candidate from the 'twin' line on the male side.
Isn't it interesting in someways how the males get all the attention? --- and all the while it is the females that 'deliver the goods'.
Speaking of delivering the goods, and circling back to the 5/5 day from the Opals pen, one of those eggs was 3.0 oz it was from the split in that pen. I bet it is double yolked.
Taking the color of the eggs too from my phone app -- there was a color named Opal -- that popped up. I don't have the hex code handy to link for you to bring it up on your screen -- but how cool is that?
That reminds me -- there is a leghorn X legbar cross that is a white crested chicken that lays blue eggs and it is called a Saphire, so Opal really is perfect for these birds.
The person who picked up the pullets this morning was asking me about the new variety of Legbar-- but I'm beginning to wonder if they should just stand on their own as Opals and the legbar world -- gets left behind them in their history. They are closer to Isabel and farther away from Legbars.
I truly think that this is the prettiest plumage pattern out there. Yep I know, 'to each their own' - but these chickens are stunning.
Next post -- I will give some attention to the females.
A couple of milestones IMO.
First, in the pen of the oldest chickens in my project.... (Bart, Barbara, Pearl, the split and the two pullets from the first 'Twin' series) -- day-before-yesterday -- it was 5 for 5 -- so all those pullets are laying.
Second -- if you are like me and you can't get enough good information about these wonderful plumage patterned birds -- there is a facebook group started by CJWaldon:
a Facebook group called "Opal Legbar Fan Club"
So here it is just hot. It's too hot for anything.
This morning three pullets went to a new home and I didn't even get their pictures... One of the pullets was Pearl.
Bart didn't approve of his sister being taken away with much squwaking and drama -- and later when I was putting out feed - he attacked me. Really, I kind of see it as him just doing his 'protect my flock role', as much as him going rogue. It was also kind of the big green feedscoop that he attacked...I just happened to be holding it. He's in time-out now -- and I don't think I will put him back with the hens tonight.
Here are some recent pictures:
above is Silver Jackson -- what a handsome dude.
Here's BB (Backup Boy) Robinson -- he seems to have more saturation than his brother Bart.... Some posts back under the discussion of coloration and the way light refracts in the coats of those specific horses -- if you look at BB's saddle feathers you see the beginnings of that glowing light-refraction.
Here's Bart, in the dog-house....and here is is a bit earlier:
Bart had a split-tail/squirrel tail thing going on for a little while there -- he seems to have grown past it. One reason I like this particular profile of him is it kind of looks like all the artwork you see of roosters. LOL
Here is the candidate from the 'twin' line on the male side.
Isn't it interesting in someways how the males get all the attention? --- and all the while it is the females that 'deliver the goods'.
Speaking of delivering the goods, and circling back to the 5/5 day from the Opals pen, one of those eggs was 3.0 oz it was from the split in that pen. I bet it is double yolked.
Taking the color of the eggs too from my phone app -- there was a color named Opal -- that popped up. I don't have the hex code handy to link for you to bring it up on your screen -- but how cool is that?
That reminds me -- there is a leghorn X legbar cross that is a white crested chicken that lays blue eggs and it is called a Saphire, so Opal really is perfect for these birds.
The person who picked up the pullets this morning was asking me about the new variety of Legbar-- but I'm beginning to wonder if they should just stand on their own as Opals and the legbar world -- gets left behind them in their history. They are closer to Isabel and farther away from Legbars.
I truly think that this is the prettiest plumage pattern out there. Yep I know, 'to each their own' - but these chickens are stunning.
Next post -- I will give some attention to the females.
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Read through everything from the beginning and it took me a while! Very interesting so staying tuned.
Not sure if it was mentioned but there is an opal color variety in OEGB that is may be tied to a genetic mutation. Some confusion may result from calling these opals. Though there are many cases of varieties with the same color genetics being named differently in different breeds and those named the same and are actually different...
Not sure if it was mentioned but there is an opal color variety in OEGB that is may be tied to a genetic mutation. Some confusion may result from calling these opals. Though there are many cases of varieties with the same color genetics being named differently in different breeds and those named the same and are actually different...
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Thanks for that info. I have an OEGB and she is an astounding little bird. If you have any photos or more info about them, I would sure be interested.
Now off to google to see if I can find more on Opal OEGB!
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https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...ames-on-eggbid-i-have-questions.123517/page-6
Above is a link to a thread on BYC about Opal OEGB. Very cool birds. Looks like in 2013 they were accepted as a new variety of OEGB. Congratulations. That thread has pictures AND -- a painting by Ron Smith. A very different look from the one we are aiming for, I believe.... we are going for lavender + the cream hackles + the color I'm going to call peach on the wing triangle...and maybe even another more saturated but dilute color on the shoulder of the male's wings.
For female -- the pale pink breast, lavender barring markings on tail and hackles and the cream colored hackles IMO.... quite different from the Opal OEGB coloration.
Henk particpated in that Opal thread and helps determine it is a different gene from lavender.
Above is a link to a thread on BYC about Opal OEGB. Very cool birds. Looks like in 2013 they were accepted as a new variety of OEGB. Congratulations. That thread has pictures AND -- a painting by Ron Smith. A very different look from the one we are aiming for, I believe.... we are going for lavender + the cream hackles + the color I'm going to call peach on the wing triangle...and maybe even another more saturated but dilute color on the shoulder of the male's wings.
For female -- the pale pink breast, lavender barring markings on tail and hackles and the cream colored hackles IMO.... quite different from the Opal OEGB coloration.
Henk particpated in that Opal thread and helps determine it is a different gene from lavender.
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