strangeanimal
Songster
I assume we all give our chickens layersfeed on a daily basis , especially to layinghens , now is it not the case that laying hybrides do not eat as much as a heritagebreed ?
we have one orpington in the middle of all the production reds and I see zero difference in eating more or less but the orpington is obviously getting a little bit , not obese but she definetely gained a lot of weight and is not even as long as the production reds here , she did not get the same extra foodies as the reds that need to gain weight but I do notice that every chicken is gaining weight here and it costed me already 3 full bags of 20 kg in short time in layingmash + 6 bags of mixed grains (only 5 kg ) , so at this point we are sort of trying to cut our bill .
we have gathered today and everyone had to agree the feedbill is going high way up beyond our calculations , so I have been asking what might cause this but neither of us knows , we have a standard way of feeding the hens .
everyone with one of these in the backyards , barns , ... feeds layingmash + mixed grains , their main feed is in that case laying mash and some get tuna , catfeed , you name it . But I have always known that per chicken a 69 grams of feed was enough , the girls have acces all day long to laying mash but I do notice not only that they eat tons of feed , I am having the idea they eat too much of that , could this be the case ?? how much of laying mash does a layinghen now REALLY need if it has full acces to bugs , greens , get vegetables and fresh fruits , tablescraps ( in weight we feed them tablescraps from neighbors and even one local restaurant that makes it foodies FRESH , total amount in Kg a day a chicken is 180 grams ) so to give you an idea of their feed amount :
* layers : all day long acces , feeder is empty to the very last crumble
* mixed grains , even having layerspellets inside = 60 gr each chicken
* foodscraps = 180 gr / chicken ( could be less but this is about the amount , it is between 125 and 180 depending on those that need to gain the most weight they all get fed differently / get cut off from eachother for only feeding time and the selection with the thinnest birds go the left or right and we put a fence between them , the ones that are indeed so difficult in eating get a total different diet , they get catfeed , tuna , etc )
but now I have been asking the others about the feedbill ( we feed the same brand and same amount 2 avoid discussions / misunderstandings if we notice a difference in ones backyard so it can not be blamed on the person about the feed )
my main question thus : how much do they REALLY need in layingmash if they also get mixed grains better said even a complete feed containing enough layerspellets already ??
how much layingmash do you feed your hens per day per chicken ??
we urgently need to cut the bills as the costs are above our heads , now they also get a lot of greens as mentioned but I often have to throw away a lot of fresh veggies and fruits as they just do not show that much of interest in it or ZIP interest , this is all bought especially for them but it is impossible to continue this way , we are in other words STUCK at this point and the risk of failure due to the bill is getting higher and higher because you have not rehomed a thousand hens a day .
I want to stop giving them the freedom of eating the layingmash whenever they like and give them ONLY an amount that they REALLY need , so can you guys help me out on that one please as I have never given layersfeed just per day in amounts , all the time layingmash has been available constantly but I have never had an empty feeder and it was always a heritagebreed plus they did not even eat that stuff so frenzy , I love to get some suggestions you have here and what the total maximum required amount is , ty from the whole team including the girls
we have one orpington in the middle of all the production reds and I see zero difference in eating more or less but the orpington is obviously getting a little bit , not obese but she definetely gained a lot of weight and is not even as long as the production reds here , she did not get the same extra foodies as the reds that need to gain weight but I do notice that every chicken is gaining weight here and it costed me already 3 full bags of 20 kg in short time in layingmash + 6 bags of mixed grains (only 5 kg ) , so at this point we are sort of trying to cut our bill .
we have gathered today and everyone had to agree the feedbill is going high way up beyond our calculations , so I have been asking what might cause this but neither of us knows , we have a standard way of feeding the hens .
everyone with one of these in the backyards , barns , ... feeds layingmash + mixed grains , their main feed is in that case laying mash and some get tuna , catfeed , you name it . But I have always known that per chicken a 69 grams of feed was enough , the girls have acces all day long to laying mash but I do notice not only that they eat tons of feed , I am having the idea they eat too much of that , could this be the case ?? how much of laying mash does a layinghen now REALLY need if it has full acces to bugs , greens , get vegetables and fresh fruits , tablescraps ( in weight we feed them tablescraps from neighbors and even one local restaurant that makes it foodies FRESH , total amount in Kg a day a chicken is 180 grams ) so to give you an idea of their feed amount :
* layers : all day long acces , feeder is empty to the very last crumble
* mixed grains , even having layerspellets inside = 60 gr each chicken
* foodscraps = 180 gr / chicken ( could be less but this is about the amount , it is between 125 and 180 depending on those that need to gain the most weight they all get fed differently / get cut off from eachother for only feeding time and the selection with the thinnest birds go the left or right and we put a fence between them , the ones that are indeed so difficult in eating get a total different diet , they get catfeed , tuna , etc )
but now I have been asking the others about the feedbill ( we feed the same brand and same amount 2 avoid discussions / misunderstandings if we notice a difference in ones backyard so it can not be blamed on the person about the feed )
my main question thus : how much do they REALLY need in layingmash if they also get mixed grains better said even a complete feed containing enough layerspellets already ??
how much layingmash do you feed your hens per day per chicken ??
we urgently need to cut the bills as the costs are above our heads , now they also get a lot of greens as mentioned but I often have to throw away a lot of fresh veggies and fruits as they just do not show that much of interest in it or ZIP interest , this is all bought especially for them but it is impossible to continue this way , we are in other words STUCK at this point and the risk of failure due to the bill is getting higher and higher because you have not rehomed a thousand hens a day .
I want to stop giving them the freedom of eating the layingmash whenever they like and give them ONLY an amount that they REALLY need , so can you guys help me out on that one please as I have never given layersfeed just per day in amounts , all the time layingmash has been available constantly but I have never had an empty feeder and it was always a heritagebreed plus they did not even eat that stuff so frenzy , I love to get some suggestions you have here and what the total maximum required amount is , ty from the whole team including the girls
) and later add heritagebreeds to my choices , as for now they come straight from the cage and many are suffering not only the fact of being skin over bone and traumatised / skittish but also cannibalism , they would kill , they often even try to taste eachother while they get food right in front of them so giving them the right amount of feed is highly recommanded here , we operate with indeed a group of people to get them rescued and work with local farmers too , just for shelter , I just need what is like the " guideline " in layingmash in fact as it is hard to see what is correct online , the recommanded amount in grams a chicken , that their needs vary is known well but that does not mean they need to eat layingmash but instead need to eat something else we offer them . So therefor I posted this , I can not find any guideline which amount of layingmash one chicken is required to get a day . 
