Lemon Blue Orpington....

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Pick-a-LilyFarm, Oct 16, 2009.

  1. Pick-a-LilyFarm

    Pick-a-LilyFarm Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jun 19, 2009
    New Boston, NH
    What breeds would be used to create lemon blue orpingtons. This is something I would like to try, but need some ideas first.....
  2. Krys109uk

    Krys109uk Chillin' With My Peeps

    Possibly the closest birchen based bird to an orpington might be a copper black marans. It would take a few years of selection to regain type.
  3. roocrazy

    roocrazy Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jun 11, 2009
    how bout splash over buff?[​IMG]
  4. OSUman


    Apr 17, 2009
    Central Illinois
    Is there such thing as a Lemon Blue Cochin if so you could use them.
  5. Krys109uk

    Krys109uk Chillin' With My Peeps

    how bout splash over buff?

    The result of this cross is not lemon blue.
    In order to get lemon blue one needs to introduce the birchen gene (ER).
    The result of crossing those two colours will not lead to lemon blue. They could, in time, be made into a couple of colour patterns, but neither would be lemon blue.

    The genotype for lemon blue is ER/ER, Bl/bl+
    which, as one can see, is quite simple from a gold birchen bird.

    The approximate genotype of crossing buff with splash is
    E/eWh, s+/s+ (or s+/-), Bl,bl+, Co/co+, Db/db+, Mh/mh+, Di/di+.....possibly Ml-Pg/ml+-pg+ & probably other genes.

    Is there such thing as a Lemon Blue Cochin if so you could use them.

    There are some cochins currently being called "lemon blue" but the birds are the above mentioned cross. In their present state can only be considered as attractive colour crosses.​
  6. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

    Jan 4, 2009
    Tempe, Arizona
    Krys, you're forgetting that many buffs are e^b rather than E^Wh. Which just makes it more confusing [​IMG]
  7. Krys109uk

    Krys109uk Chillin' With My Peeps

    Buff Orps are eWh. Regarding making lemon blue it wouldn't make any difference.[​IMG]
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2009

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