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We don't have it, yet. Having made it to continental Antarctica suggests it's only a matter of time before it moves to NZ's sub-Antarctic islands, and then to the main islands.

I may provide supplements for my birds to boost their immune system, but we won't restrict their ranging any more than normal. How others manage their flock is none of my business.

A lot of people seem to make the mistake in believing that all of us "natural selection" types are ignorant of the fact that it could be our flock, our grandparents, us... Certainly plenty are, but also plenty are aware our birds can die (or in the case of other viruses, we/our loved ones could die).

I'm trying to eek out as natural a life as I can manage in a modern world that continues to vilify that very thing more and more every year for the sake of profits (at the top) and cheap gizmos to distract (at the bottom) both of which destroy the planet for every living thing. Part of nature is death - no matter how heartbreaking. I am capable of surviving heartbreak.

I don't think it's any more human, noble, or necessarily a better experience, by the way - it's just the experience I'm choosing to have.
I spent a lot of time reading research articles during the second year of Covid - accessed from Google Scholar not "billgatesisinjecting5ginourbloodstream.com" One thing that became very clear, very quickly is that a large number of small studies showed good results in using the herbs, spices, and other natural remedies that humans have used for treating illnesses since probably before we evolved into Homo sapiens. Things like garlic, cloves, green tea, echinacea, ginger, black pepper, eucalyptus, thyme, oregano and many, many others were shown to likely boost the immune system and shorten recovery for the virus. If they've been good enough to get humans to this stage of evolution, they're good enough for me. I also grow many of these things on my property, and an constantly expanding my edible/medicinal plant collection.

I'll do the same thing if/when bird flu gets here. I will inform myself the best way I can, I will provide what I can to boost my flock's immunity, and I will figure out how to make them more comfortable in their final hours if that is the way they have to go.
 
We don't have it, yet. Having made it to continental Antarctica suggests it's only a matter of time before it moves to NZ's sub-Antarctic islands, and then to the main islands.

I may provide supplements for my birds to boost their immune system, but we won't restrict their ranging any more than normal. How others manage their flock is none of my business.

A lot of people seem to make the mistake in believing that all of us "natural selection" types are ignorant of the fact that it could be our flock, our grandparents, us... Certainly plenty are, but also plenty are aware our birds can die (or in the case of other viruses, we/our loved ones could die).

I'm trying to eek out as natural a life as I can manage in a modern world that continues to vilify that very thing more and more every year for the sake of profits (at the top) and cheap gizmos to distract (at the bottom) both of which destroy the planet for every living thing. Part of nature is death - no matter how heartbreaking. I am capable of surviving heartbreak.

I don't think it's any more human, noble, or necessarily a better experience, by the way - it's just the experience I'm choosing to have.
I spent a lot of time reading research articles during the second year of Covid - accessed from Google Scholar not "billgatesisinjecting5ginourbloodstream.com" One thing that became very clear, very quickly is that a large number of small studies showed good results in using the herbs, spices, and other natural remedies that humans have used for treating illnesses since probably before we evolved into Homo sapiens. Things like garlic, cloves, green tea, echinacea, ginger, black pepper, eucalyptus, thyme, oregano and many, many others were shown to likely boost the immune system and shorten recovery for the virus. If they've been good enough to get humans to this stage of evolution, they're good enough for me. I also grow many of these things on my property, and an constantly expanding my edible/medicinal plant collection.

I'll do the same thing if/when bird flu gets here. I will inform myself the best way I can, I will provide what I can to boost my flock's immunity, and I will figure out how to make them more comfortable in their final hours if that is the way they have to go.
And I just got chastised for pretty much saying the same thing.
 
And I just got chastised for pretty much saying the same thing.
Lots of different opinions on here. Plus, opinions can change as we learn more. Without you bringing it up and other people backing you up, I would have gone on thinking there's nothing to green tea wrt bird flu!
 
And I just got chastised for pretty much saying the same thing.

Honestly, that's part of why I decided to chime in.

It really stinks, but in the modern world we've simply been pitted against each other and manipulated to react without assessing each individual situation/comment/intent.

All of us do it, and when I see it happening it feels appropriate to lend my voice.
 
There is some stuff popping up on social media about Avian flu in California, this is what their California Dept of health is saying right now, Oct.2025. The last reported Human case was in late January, 2025

Key Facts:
Cases: There have been confirmed cases of bird flu in both wild birds and poultry in California.
Affected Areas: The virus has been detected in multiple counties across California, including Los Angeles, Merced, and Santa Clara counties.
Human Infections: There have been a limited number of human cases associated with the outbreak, primarily among workers in contact with infected animals.
Transmission: The virus does not typically spread from person to person, but it can be transmitted from infected birds to humans through direct contact or exposure to contaminated surfaces.
Precautions: The California Department of Public Health (CDPH) recommends taking the following precautions:
Avoid contact with sick or dead birds.
Wear gloves when handling poultry or bird droppings.
Wash hands thoroughly after handling birds or their environment.
Cook poultry to an internal temperature of 165°F.
Resources:
California Department of Public Health (CDPH): https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/pages/Bird-Flu.aspx
California Department of Food and Agriculture (CDFA): https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/AHFSS/Animal_Health/HPAI.html
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC): https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/index.html
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There is some stuff popping up on social media about Avian flu in California, this is what their California Dept of health is saying right now, Oct.2025. The last reported Human case was in late January, 2025

Key Facts:
Cases: There have been confirmed cases of bird flu in both wild birds and poultry in California.
Affected Areas: The virus has been detected in multiple counties across California, including Los Angeles, Merced, and Santa Clara counties.
Human Infections: There have been a limited number of human cases associated with the outbreak, primarily among workers in contact with infected animals.
Transmission: The virus does not typically spread from person to person, but it can be transmitted from infected birds to humans through direct contact or exposure to contaminated surfaces.
Precautions: The California Department of Public Health (CDPH) recommends taking the following precautions:
Avoid contact with sick or dead birds.
Wear gloves when handling poultry or bird droppings.
Wash hands thoroughly after handling birds or their environment.
Cook poultry to an internal temperature of 165°F.
Resources:
California Department of Public Health (CDPH): https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/pages/Bird-Flu.aspx
California Department of Food and Agriculture (CDFA): https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/AHFSS/Animal_Health/HPAI.html
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC): https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/index.html
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Unfortunately bird flu spikes here in fall, is more or less ever present through winter, then spikes again in spring. It’s the pacific flyway and California is a major hub for a lot of species on their way to central and South America or choosing to wait the season out here.

For other California residents, we’re now in the half of year where extra precautions are necessary. Be prepared to lockdown your flocks and stick to stringent biosecurity protocols.
 
Yep, it does spike with migration. I had just seen some weird stuff crop up online and looked it up to be cautious. Which months are you doing extra precautions?
 
Yep, it does spike with migration. I had just seen some weird stuff crop up online and looked it up to be cautious. Which months are you doing extra precautions?
For me personally where I live it’s when I see the flocks moving overhead, now through November, and again in February/March.
Overall I’m careful from now until spring if I know I, going to be down in the valley near any of the rice fields and wetlands or near anyone else’s flock though. I used to go down to see the wild birds at Grey Lodge every year, I don’t do that now because of the risk, which sucks but it won’t be forever….hopefully.
 

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