Lets talk about goats!

Hi guys, I just stumbled upon this post and wondering if anyone here can help me identify the breed of goats that I have. I purchased them from an auction 3 days ago and have no information on them at all unfortunately.. I'm fine with them being mixed breed if they are, Just curious if anyone knows their goats! I have tried searching the net but can't really come up with anything similar.
The brown one is a male, he has buds but no horns forming yet...He has a black stripe down his back and his legs and various other black marks, he is what I would consider a buckskin in color. I have no idea how old he is, if he is a baby or if someone de-horned him ( I don't see any indications of de-horning), He has a small face and head with floppy ears... He is already a bit taller than the female.
The black and white one is a pregnant female, She is very small..About 2 foot tall..( my son thinks she is a baby cow and she sure looks like one lol) I'm assuming she is a pygmy or mixed with one. She has no horns at all. She has blue eyes. Her ears don't stand up erect, But sort of lay out on the sides of her head outwards.
Posting a lot of pics from different angles for possible identification. Like I said, Its nothing major, we love them already. Just curious as to the breed or breeds that they may be. And if the male is a baby or if he will be a big boy. He is already sexually mature and trying to mount the doe if that helps any at all to age. He is very nervous so I am not able to check his teeth in case anyone asks.
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Thanks :)
 
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The male has a kilo look about him to me, maybe some Nigerian too.
The doe I'd say is a Nigerian mix too.
It's hard to tell. Could be anything really, might even be some Savannah in there, it's a meat breed.
Kiko is considered dual purpose
Nigerian, milk breed.
Maybe someone else with a better eye will pop in and give a better idea.lol
 
Mini Nubian mix for the male... And he will never grow horns because he is polled.

The doe look Nigerian Dwarf and maybe a tad bit of Nubian cuz her ears aren't Totally straight out they tilt just a bit.

What size are they at the withers? How old?

If you don't know how old you can tell by there teeth!

Also, you may look into testing name for CAE, CL and John's, maybe some others...
 
Can you get a close-up of the horn buds?

Not really, There is not much to see in a picture yet as they are just covered in hair and he doesn't let me fool with him much.:(... I checked all the pics that I have taken and you can't see really see them, you can see the bumps in the pics...But When he lets me touch his head (while I'm holding grain) I can feel two perfect rounded knobs there as if they are starting to form..Nothing pointy. I think he is very young. I dont think he has been socialized much because he seems really afraid of people. I had a pygmy buckling that I bottle fed from a week old and it feels like his did when he was a few weeks old, He did grow horns.

I was able to forceably check his teeth and they are all small. The female has 2 larger ones in the bottom center and the rest are small. I did measure both of them at the tallest point of their shoulder....The female is 19 inches and he is 22 inches tall.
After reading up on Nigerian vs Pygmy, The Nigerian characteristics fits her more than pygmy so she may be some type of Nigerian mix as stated above. :)
 
If you have blood stop powder put a little on it, if not, self rising flour or a hand full of cobwebs will stop the bleeding. It'll heal up, so don't worry too much. They bleed alot but unless it's running down his legs and making puddles, he'll be fine.;)
 

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