Let's talk Cuckoo and WHITE marans... breeding strategies...

[SixHix]

Can anyone here tell me the genotype on a golden cuckoo marans... mine are the light type, so I am getting that he most likely homozygous for the barring gene. I am also trying to understand what makes them autosexing... its not just the barring...something else is going on too and I sure would like to understand.

from the Australian Marans site:

Genome of the male being ER/ER or eWh/eWh or e+/e+ s+/s+ B/B Id/Id W/W Pti-1/Pti-1 and that of the hen ER/ER or eWh/eWh or e+/e+ s+/- B/B Id/- W/W Pti-1/Pti-1

I'm certainly no expert, but I'll take a stab at it. I'm sure there are others that may want to correct me. But for what else makes them autosexing- I think the gold (s+) gene helps autosexing if I remember correctly. if they were salmon cuckoo (e+) gene that would help also--but I think most golden cuckoos are not e+ from what I can gather.

 

[pmessner]

Thank you for the response...

So the e locus can be birchen, wheaten or wild type? birchen makes the most sense to me

The B is for the barring, which is sex linked so the female has one, the male can have one or two

s+ is for gold, also sex linked so the female is either gold or black while the roos can have one of each which I have seen in the silver birchen type... the s+ carriers have gold highlights

Id is leg color, mine are light/whitish pink, not yellow

W is for white skin

Pti-1, feathered legs


still doesn't get at why they are autosexing... something modifies the color so the chicks are different and it is more than just barring. Would love to know.

 

[3riverschick]

from the Australian Marans site:

Genome of the male being ER/ER or eWh/eWh or e+/e+ s+/s+ B/B Id/Id W/W Pti-1/Pti-1 and that of the hen ER/ER or eWh/eWh or e+/e+ s+/- B/B Id/- W/W Pti-1/Pti-1

I'm certainly no expert, but I'll take a stab at it. I'm sure there are others that may want to correct me. But for what else makes them autosexing- I think the gold (s+) gene helps autosexing if I remember correctly. if they were salmon cuckoo (e+) gene that would help also--but I think most golden cuckoos are not e+ from what I can gather.

After seeing Hornbeam Poultry's Lemon Cuckoo Marans ( he doesn't have them anymore ) and how they threw numerous Wheatons when inbred by the elder Mr. Rau ( to his consternation) , I am convinced the lighter Golden Cuckoos are eWh based.
JMHO,
Karen in western PA US

 

[xlboergoats]

My new Whites from Ernie have started to lay and wow what a nice color! After they lay for a bit I will get some pictures up!!

Glad to know that your Whites have started laying. I hope that you enjoy them as much as we do. They are still a work in progress. We feel blessed to have been able to get our start of Whites when we did.

Thanks,
Ernie Haire

 

[DMRippy]

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We are still waiting for pic Becky

it didn't happen without pics.

 

[Raven1]

They are very hit ad miss right now. Give me a break Seriously I will get pics up in about a week when they are laying regular. It seems they will be giving me 4's & 5's I could not be happier!

 

[DMRippy]

They are very hit ad miss right now. Give me a break

Seriously I will get pics up in about a week when they are laying regular. It seems they will be giving me 4's & 5's I could not be happier!

I think I have 1 cuckoo pullet that same age nothing yet. I still have to test mate her. She is with my CCL roo so that should do it and make me some Sexable Olive Eggers too LOL. I love dual purpose test mating

My weekend is going to full moving some birds around... but kinda excited to get them moved... even if it means eating eggs for 3 weeks from 2 pens.

 

[pmessner]

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Thank you for the note on this... much appreciated... me thinks this is going to be a long term project for me... maybe some test crosses... it will be interesting. I do know I prefer the light... which is not the direction others are taking.... but atleast figuring out the underlying genes will be of value.

 

[stevodod]

What's better/more popular to keep to make mixed-breed chickens, a DARK cuckoo maran rooster or the traditional LIGHT ones?

 

[NookNook01]

Hey Y'all....I was hoping someone could help me identify my " Mystery Exotic" chick. I narrowed it down to a CC Marans or a Dominique. If anyone has strong feelings in either direction I'd be Very Grateful!! Also any ideas either way on gender?? I read they can be sexed as a new chick?? I'm so confused....