LGBTQ+ Poultry Keepers

[fluffycrow]

Also completely unrelated, but my anxiety is acting up again . I notice that during night time when I have more time to contemplate on life In general it gets a little worse.....darn started thinking about the pullets again

 

[Canadian Wind]

Guh, website decided to stop sending me notices again.

Also completely unrelated, but my anxiety is acting up again . I notice that during night time when I have more time to contemplate on life In general it gets a little worse.....darn started thinking about the pullets again

Think of more Disney names!

 

[fluffycrow]

Guh, website decided to stop sending me notices again.

Think of more Disney names!

Ahh yes thank you for reminding me!

 

[BelovedBirds]

I'm gonna just throw my two cents in on these quotes altogether. (Also Hi all, sorry I was gone for a bit, been busy lol). So I'm dealing with some of this crap right now by way of my boyfriend. He's bi, and not out to his family or at work. His little brother is the only one that knows and thankfully has been keeping it quiet. We talk about him coming out all the time. Not being out at work unfortunately will probably have to continue to be a thing for a very long time because he's in a trade and well... ya'll know how that can be. Even though I'm sure if he found a good company that actually had an HR department that did its job he'd be fine. But I digress.

When the conversation about him coming out to his family comes up, the battle plan is always the same. Wait till he moves up here and he can get all of his stuff out of the house safely and then come out. Because we're pretty positive that he's going to be disowned... or worse. And I hate that that's something we have to make a contingency plan for.




So I'm very much the same way in that I do advocate for responsible breeding, (And I know that for my needs I'd do better with a pup of a specific breed from a very good breeder), but I also support rescues and people's decision to rescue. But that is just ridiculous.

The only time I ever stopped talking to someone over something like that was an ex-friend who had a dog with severe separation anxiety and she was pregnant with her and her husband's first child. She was terrified that the dog was going to hurt the baby, kept going on and on about it, and the fact that they'd have to turn the dog's room (aka her comfort zone basically) into the nursery, and that that would probably cause all these problems, etc. etc. So she surrendered/rehomed/got rid of the dog she'd had for YEARS! YEARS!! And then right after the baby is born I see her with some brand new, clearly very expensive, purebred terrier something or other. And I just. I was done.

But again, this was a former friend, not a family member! We don't go disowning people willy-nilly! Wtf???

Gets off soap box

In other less upsetting news, I'm officially 29 years old today!

Happy birthday!!!

Im the same, I don't disown people easily. Only when hurt by that person over and over.
My ex friend who hit on me multiple times and then asked me out, very boldly, after I'd come out--- and the fact that when I came out, he tried to tell me it was a phase-- that was enough for me to cut him off. Because he was not taking the hint. And it was very clear that he didn't want to be friends, he just wanted to stick around and take his shot. He has not messaged me since. And if he does I won't be responding.
Aside from that, the only two people I've cut off were grossly abusive.

I think it's important to try and keep things civil with family as much as is reasonably possible- but it reaches a point. I've fallen out with *a fair few* family members. I cannot write out what was said, but it defended an illegal act and I was furious. For my upset, I got attacked by many family members for it which blew my mind. They knew what he said.
In my eyes, at the end of the day, you build your family. Friends who accept you, communities who take care of you, that's more family to me than blood will ever be.

 

[BelovedBirds]

I'm the same way.

Wow. As someone who HEAVILY advocates for the responsible (dog) breeding community, this is so strange and infuriating. On a different note, it truly frustrates me to see parents "love" their children, when in reality they only love them for as long as they are and behave the exacts same way they imagined it in their heads and dreams. Like it really makes me think, why were they parents in the first place, were they parents only because they wanted their child to accomplish the dreams they couldn't?

I guess I also am, especially in the case of assistance dogs, working dogs
But I do advocate strongly for adoption too- one of my doggies is a pedigree, but I adopted her, the other is a rescue who was about to be put down as a puppy

 

[fluffycrow]

Should I do my rant?

 

[BelovedBirds]

Should I do my rant?

We're all having a rant, so I say go for it!!!

 

[JacinLarkwell]

I guess I also am, especially in the case of assistance dogs, working dogs
But I do advocate strongly for adoption too- one of my doggies is a pedigree, but I adopted her, the other is a rescue who was about to be put down as a puppy

I'm all for adoption. All of my family dogs have been adopted through shelters or the reservation. But I have a few that I'd really rather get a purebred of because I like those specific looks and the typical behavior lines up with what I'm looking for

 

[fluffycrow]

OK here we go! Basically this is a rant as to why I don't think rescues here would allow me to foster their dogs. First and foremost, I'd like to say, Greece is FULL of feral and stray dogs. Important note is though, that 99% of these dogs are either LGD mixes or hunting dog mixes, so that is what you'll most likely find in a shelter. While hunting dogs can work for more homes than LGD mixes, both don't fit many households especially not those that live in the bug cities. Appart from that, we don't have many good trainers here (don't get me wrong, I know of some excellent ones, but you'd have to know where to look to find them, and most people here either don't know where to look, or they're too unbothered to put in the effort) The rescue groups in Greece in their effort to find as many homes to as many dogs as possible, advocate these LGD mixes as wonderful pet dogs that do well in a family setting in a house, which in my opinion I'd very misleading and potentially dangerous down the line. Because they under no sircumstances agree with responsible breeding, they refuse to give these dogs to knowledgeable fosters, trainers, and breeders (because most of these people agree with responsible breeding, plus they advocate for working homes) In addition, rescue groups have ads that play regularly on TV, and some of them are downright bad (some I actually agree with though, it's not all bad) My most hated one is an ad that features a popular Greek actor/comedian (I think) who tells us that early on he had a purebred (not wellbred) dog he wanted to breed because she was pretty, but later on found out that there are many dogs in need of homes so he adopted a new doh instead, and encourages us to do the same. My main problem with this, is that it does a very bad job at explaining responsible breeding. Breeding a dog just because it's purebred and because it's pretty is a very bad way of going about breeding dogs, it's BYB level stuff. Responsible breeders do a million evaluations, spend money on shows, expensive health tests (not your typical vet exam) , spend hours and hours with each litter, and if said dog breed is also a hunting breed, double the cost. So yeah, basically I just really hate the representation of ethical breeding in this add, but I do agree with the adopting side. I just don't really like how it's set up right now

 

[BelovedBirds]

OK here we go! Basically this is a rant as to why I don't think rescues here would allow me to foster their dogs. First and foremost, I'd like to say, Greece is FULL of feral and stray dogs. Important note is though, that 99% of these dogs are either LGD mixes or hunting dog mixes, so that is what you'll most likely find in a shelter. While hunting dogs can work for more homes than LGD mixes, both don't fit many households especially not those that live in the bug cities. Appart from that, we don't have many good trainers here (don't get me wrong, I know of some excellent ones, but you'd have to know where to look to find them, and most people here either don't know where to look, or they're too unbothered to put in the effort) The rescue groups in Greece in their effort to find as many homes to as many dogs as possible, advocate these LGD mixes as wonderful pet dogs that do well in a family setting in a house, which in my opinion I'd very misleading and potentially dangerous down the line. Because they under no sircumstances agree with responsible breeding, they refuse to give these dogs to knowledgeable fosters, trainers, and breeders (because most of these people agree with responsible breeding, plus they advocate for working homes) In addition, rescue groups have ads that play regularly on TV, and some of them are downright bad (some I actually agree with though, it's not all bad) My most hated one is an ad that features a popular Greek actor/comedian (I think) who tells us that early on he had a purebred (not wellbred) dog he wanted to breed because she was pretty, but later on found out that there are many dogs in need of homes so he adopted a new doh instead, and encourages us to do the same. My main problem with this, is that it does a very bad job at explaining responsible breeding. Breeding a dog just because it's purebred and because it's pretty is a very bad way of going about breeding dogs, it's BYB level stuff. Responsible breeders do a million evaluations, spend money on shows, expensive health tests (not your typical vet exam) , spend hours and hours with each litter, and if said dog breed is also a hunting breed, double the cost. So yeah, basically I just really hate the representation of ethical breeding in this add, but I do agree with the adopting side. I just don't really like how it's set up right now

This is true

My mum was half joking today that if we bred my alaskan malamute, we could make a LOT of money from the puppies. This is true, but there are so many reasons I'd never consider it.

Firstly she's a pet, I love her and wouldn't be happy putting her through the pregnancy and birth, and separation of her pups-- she's had a difficult life and bonds with other dogs and people SO easily. She gets really upset at any small change, so I wouldn't put her through a change so big.

Secondly, she's purebred but she's unhealthy. She was the last of the litter, no one wanted her and I believe strongly she was a runt. She's never filled out properly, and has on going eating problems and behavioural problems. NOT good genetics to breed from.

There's so much more to it than "money", or "she's pretty!" Or "puppies would be fun!"
Definitely getting her spayed ASAP after her next heat.