LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

[Brahma Chicken5000]

Ya seriously you would think in one year $100M would be better spent on a chicken vnd vaccine. Wonder how many vaccines that money could have bought. Versus...not sure what until now people hired off the street to depopulate chickens.
Too bad chickens really are looked at as disposable livestock. This would never happen with pet dogs and cats.
I suppose society, our disposable non sustainable society has some culpability for this view and status.

If the USDA and CDFA started euthanizing dogs and cats people would be up in arms, but since it’s “just chickens” that they’re euthanizing they don’t care. I personally will take chickens over dogs and cats any day of the week.

 

[roosterhavoc]

We used to know someone (acquaintance through work, not a friend) that raised and sold fighting roosters and was quite open about it. Whenever someone brought up what a horrible thing he was doing, he'd laugh and say, "I just sell roosters. I don't know or care what they do with them after they're sold."

It could easily be spread by selling infected birds and moving them around. Since it's all under the table anyway, no way to know who is doing what, how many birds are coming and going, or where the birds end up.

I'm not blaming anyone, but having known this one person I could see how it could happen.

Well that’s illegal if he knew they were being used for fighting. Aside from that what’s the difference in selling silkies, Easter Eggers or any other kind of chicken? You’ll see throughout this forum where someone receives all kinds of sick birds. I’m pretty sure everyone is aware this isn’t a “rooster” disease. That person that took the chicken to the vet in Northern California that tested positive for VND wasn’t linked to any kind of gamefowl. So how did the chicken get it?

 

[Kathy Golla]

I feel so helpless for all the pet chicken keepers in Perris, Norco and Mira Loma right now.
It’s not a good feeling.

 

[Brahma Chicken5000]

My friend at the USDA during her deployment said that she saw a lady sell some chickens and the car drive off just before the USDA came to test them. That’s one of the ways that the disease can be getting around.
I wonder if the disease can be transferred by car wheals?

 

[roosterhavoc]

Newcastle is viral, so antibiotics would have no effect.

And I know people who just like the breed of animal so much that breed improvement becomes a hobby and/or passion. And for sure there are people who want to acquire these birds because they like the breed and that's it.

It's just that with the ratio there--more than 90 percent "exhibition" chickens--that focus should be on that population.

I’m aware that antibiotics don’t work on viruses. My angle was working around the law if the individual sees fit.
I agree if the problem is truly centrally located then it should be dealt with in that area specifically.
I find it difficult to understand why they’re killing heathy birds in an area where other people have chickens that haven’t been touched yet. If they’re moving this slow to get it done it seems their efforts won’t change the outcome at all. Well except for killing a bunch of pet birds for no reason.

 

[Kathy Golla]

Well that’s illegal if he knew they were being used for fighting. Aside from that what’s the difference in selling silkies, Easter Eggers or any other kind of chicken? You’ll see throughout this forum where someone receives all kinds of sick birds. I’m pretty sure everyone is aware this isn’t a “rooster” disease. That person that took the chicken to the vet in Northern California that tested positive for VND wasn’t linked to any kind of gamefowl. So how did the chicken get it?

Unfortunately the person in NorCal was linked to cockfighting. Had moved his bird from Scal. There’s plenty of news stories out there about it. The local avian vet community was told exactly that ( that it was a fighting cock) by the vet organizations and warned not to see roosters they were not familiar with. I have an avian vet employee contact who told me this.

 

[Brahma Chicken5000]

Does anyone know if the case reported in Utah was dealt with?

 

[roosterhavoc]

My friend at the USDA during her deployment said that she saw a lady sell some chickens and the car drive off just before the USDA came to test them. That’s one of the ways that the disease can be getting around.
I wonder if the disease can be transferred by car wheals?

I bet they weren’t gamefowl either. My whole point was it’s a disease but more than likely many people are at fault and not just a few people with a bunch of roosters.

 

[roosterhavoc]

Unfortunately the person in NorCal was linked to cockfighting. Had moved his bird from Scal. There’s plenty of news stories out there about it. The local avian vet community was told exactly that ( that it was a fighting cock) by the vet organizations and warned not to see roosters they were not familiar with. I have an avian vet employee contact who told me this.

You’re telling me this “cockfighter” took his bird to the vet. Do you have a link to this information?

 

[Kathy Golla]

Ncal was dealt with sounds likeAZ was dealt with too. AZ was a bird being moved from scal although I never heard it was a cockfighting bird.
In the 2003 outbreak there were cases in I think 5 other states.