LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

[Kathy Golla]

The disease got into commercial poultry operations by way of the workers when they attend shall we say “extracurricular poultry events” and bring back the disease on their clothes, boots, or vehicle tires.

That's exactly right.

 

[Kathy Golla]

Maybe an industry shouldn’t have been built housing a million chickens in close quarters on top of one another? Profit and greed was the driving force not just meeting demand. Now the economy is dependent on it. Some things should change and with it might come a little discomfort for some.

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We've made it an indispensible industry. I couldnt believe the amount of eggs my local Safeway had over Easter. It takes me a week to get a dozen eggs.
Same with our demand for beef causing a hole in the ozone layer.

 

[IamRainey]

Oh man! If you're traveling on the 5 you have to shut all your windows and make sure your air circulation system is on Recycle 5 miles away from the feedlots.

It's a horrible experience passing them and I can't imagine it's any less horrible for animals to spend their lives that way. Crowded, out exposed to the sun in shadeless areas and breathing in all that ammonia and methane for their whole lives until they're slaughtered.

It makes my stomach turn to think about it.

 

[roosterhavoc]

The disease got into commercial poultry operations by way of the workers when they attend shall we say “extracurricular poultry events” and bring back the disease on their clothes, boots, or vehicle tires.

“Extracurricular poultry events” is probably right but that would include everyone raising as many birds as they can to sell to attempt to turn a profit. There is very little chance of that actually happening if the birds are properly cared for. Sure there’s some that can do it but they are in the minority. Swaps, poultry shows, etc.. all contribute not just a few illegal activities. Some actual research would be needed to understand how the birds were actually used and cared for. Sick birds would never have been used for any “extracurricular poultry event”. There’s entirely too much misinformation being thrown around because the very people killing birds for no reason are blaming the gamefowl owners and using them as a scapegoat.
People own gamefowl all over the country. Some folks need to open their eyes.

 

[Brahma Chicken5000]

“Extracurricular poultry events” is probably right but that would include everyone raising as many birds as they can to sell to attempt to turn a profit. There is very little chance of that actually happening if the birds are properly cared for. Sure there’s some that can do it but they are in the minority. Swaps, poultry shows, etc.. all contribute not just a few illegal activities. Some actual research would be needed to understand how the birds were actually used and cared for. Sick birds would never have been used for any “extracurricular poultry event”. There’s entirely too much misinformation being thrown around because the very people killing birds for no reason are blaming the gamefowl owners and using them as a scapegoat.
People own gamefowl all over the country. Some folks need to open their eyes.

Look I’m not pointing the finger at those who raise Gamefowl, all I’m saying is that if a factory farm worker attended a cock fight, swap meet, or even a poultry show that had sick birds in the vicinity the chance of transfer would be very high.

 

[roosterhavoc]

Look I’m noting pointing the finger at those who raise Gamefowl all I’m saying is that if a factory farm worker attended a cock fight, swap meet, or even a poultry show that had sick birds in the vicinity the chance of transfer would be very high.

If that factory farm worker went over his buddy’s house who raised any kind of chickens and had a beer the same thing could result. I don’t understand where they’re getting a cockfight from. I’ve read and read all the articles and all the press releases. It’s BS. It’s all chickens and they have no idea. They’re killing off birds in locales close to commercial farms. Simple as that. None of it will do anything except result in a bunch of dead healthy birds. The bio security is a joke. Anyone can do it for a week but after that slip ups will be made. This will result in more regulations regarding owning backyard chickens if you will be able to at all in certain areas.

 

[roosterhavoc]

General poultry shows have tons of sick birds by posters own admission on this forum. They load their birds up with antibiotics because they’re sick and still take them to shows. Many people report bring their birds home from a show only to get sick within a few days. That’s more telling than anything else. Besides a helluva lot more people own non gamefowl than do. Percentages and all.

 

[Brahma Chicken5000]

If that factory farm worker went over his buddy’s house who raised any kind of chickens and had a beer the same thing could result. I don’t understand where they’re getting a cockfight from. I’ve read and read all the articles and all the press releases. It’s BS. It’s all chickens and they have no idea. They’re killing off birds in locales close to commercial farms. Simple as that. None of it will do anything except result in a bunch of dead healthy birds. The bio security is a joke. Anyone can do it for a week but after that slip ups will be made. This will result in more regulations regarding owning backyard chickens if you will be able to at all in certain areas.

I suspect Gamefowl are being called the source of the disease because the public thinks that the right thing is being done when the alleged fighting birds are euthanized. Saying that fighting birds are the cause of the disease will go over well with the uneducated public than saying that the poultry industry is trying to cover its butt by having all birds euthanized in the vicinity surrounding their warehouses.

 

[Animalfisherwoman]

Look I’m noting pointing the finger at those who raise Gamefowl all I’m saying is that if a factory farm worker attended a cock fight, swap meet, or even a poultry show that had sick birds in the vicinity the chance of transfer would be very high.

We don't know how much higher, though. We don't know any specifics

I suspect Gamefowl are being called the source of the disease because the public thinks that the right thing is being done when the alleged fighting birds are euthanized. Saying that fighting birds are the cause of the disease will go over well with the uneducated public than saying that poultry industry is trying to cover its butt by having all birds euthanized in the vicinity surrounding their warehouse.

You can't sell poultry or eggs within the quarantine zone, and as this has gone on since February with no end in sight, I suspect those businesses culled stock. It's the only thing that makes business sense.

And, USDA/CDFA have classified over 90 percent of infections as among "backyard exhibition chickens." If they wanted to deliberately lie, it'd be more in their PR interest to make up detections in "non-commercial layer chickens."

 

[roosterhavoc]

I suspect Gamefowl are being called the source of the disease because the public thinks that the right thing is being done when the alleged fighting birds are euthanized. Saying that fighting birds are the cause of the disease will go over well with the uneducated public than saying that poultry industry is trying to cover its butt by having all birds euthanized in the vicinity surrounding their warehouse.

Exactly.