I know what you mean - have a couple of them myself, lol! I actually had what I realize now was a "birchen Marans" roo several years ago & since there was no such thing as a birchen that I knew of back then, I culled him (he was also mean as a snake).Oh yeah I got lots of them. I don't ever know if any of them will ever fly (pun intended here),LOL I need a lot of money just to get them off the ground(opps I did it again)LOL
Jeff