~MALAYSIAN SERAMA THREAD~ (PICS!!!)

[HenThymes]

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Congrats on your hatch!

What an awesome bunch of color..

 

[HenThymes]

BluegrassSeramas Wrote:
I love all the colors too. I need to get new blood in my line and hope to get some neat colors. I traded birds with Dianne of Paradise Seramas, and hope when I get to pick a hen, its a super neat colored one.

I was lucky enough to come across a beautiful little size A hen that is a gorgeous chocolate mottled. Can't wait to see what she produces. I will try and get some pictures of her today and post them.​

 

[catwalk]

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I have a Silkie and a Cochin raising Seramas right now. Cochin momma is great, Silkie momma is amazing! Phyllis lets her babies ride around on her back! Only one problem, though, and nobody else has ever heard of it -- her long twiny feathers wrap around the babies necks. When they first hatched, I would pick Phyllis up and give her a shake; little chicks would fall out of the fluff, but sometimes one was hanging by her neck, and I'd have to pluck the feather to unwrap it. Only one died that way, but constant vigilance was required. She is now trimmed of her feathers of death, and although she looks ridiculous now (she would have been a great show bird had she been a standard color), she's the best mom!

 

[TsaLaGi Acres]

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I use both, but lost my pure Silkie last year. My favorites are the Cochin Silkie crosses. ( I call them "the mogwai" from Gremlins, cause they are so cute and have mohawks.

) I think any smallish bantam would work.

Oh that is TOO cute!! We might try that and have already planned letting our white frizzle roo in with a white silke or two. lol

There is another lady who lives here in Mo. that we've been talking to about her Seramas and I think she does the same thing. I'm hoping to purchase from her as well this yr. I want to gather a nice gene pool and then focus on breeding for standard, and play with the colors, we'd really like to show at some point ...I would LOVE to see a splash or Lavender Serama!!! Wouldn't that be just beautiful? Ok so has probably already been done but I've not seen it yet...I'm talking lavender w/ dk blue lacing .....I just think that would be so special!! I'm quite simple (and easily amused), but LOVE to learn as much as I can about genetics and how they work, so I read and read and read.

I love all the colors too. I need to get new blood in my line and hope to get some neat colors. I traded birds with Dianne of Paradise Seramas, and hope when I get to pick a hen, its a super neat colored one.

Oh, Dianne!! She's got some of the most beautiful Seramas, that white roo that she won with just takes the cake!! I wonder if she's planning on taking some of her birds to the APA meeting or the Bantam one. She'd be a good representative of the breed!! I'd love to have some of her lines, could never pay what she's probably asking for them but wow they really are somethin!! I've read several comments from her (on the SCNA forum) about how selective she is, of course if you only keep the best and only breed the best....

On a lil' different subject (but still about him) have you ever paid attn. to their combs while crowing?? Not sure if this is cause for concern or just normal but DaVinci's comb is light red, when he is being held he seems to relax and his comb almost drains of color (turns almost a yellow/pink) but when he gets up and walks around again or starts crowing it's dark red...is there something else he's needing or is he just relaxing SO much that his bp is going way down?? I'll be the first to say that I'm a worry wort but especially with our babies we love them so much that we don't want to loose them.

I dont think I have ever noticed that. You will have to let us know if you find out anything else.....​

We'll keep ya updated, I'm hoping it's not an internal problem but just something that is normal...he relaxes soooo much when Ellen has him. When in with his 'girls' he stays excited and they don't let him sleep (they LUV him!!) lol​

 

[TsaLaGi Acres]

We'll keep ya updated, I'm hoping it's not an internal problem but just something that is normal...he relaxes soooo much when Ellen has him. When in with his 'girls' he stays excited and they don't let him sleep (they LUV him!!) lol

I think I found out what it is!! https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=151689 (Gotta love these forums) Found it here and it's just called 'flushing' . .

 

[TsaLaGi Acres]

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I have a Silkie and a Cochin raising Seramas right now. Cochin momma is great, Silkie momma is amazing! Phyllis lets her babies ride around on her back! Only one problem, though, and nobody else has ever heard of it -- her long twiny feathers wrap around the babies necks. When they first hatched, I would pick Phyllis up and give her a shake; little chicks would fall out of the fluff, but sometimes one was hanging by her neck, and I'd have to pluck the feather to unwrap it. Only one died that way, but constant vigilance was required. She is now trimmed of her feathers of death, and although she looks ridiculous now (she would have been a great show bird had she been a standard color), she's the best mom!

Oh wow, I've never heard of that either!! Bless their lil' hearts, they prolly got under her and would wiggle and twist around trying to snuggle, and got tangled. Cute image tho, I can see you picking up momma and shaking out chicks lol Don't ya wish that's how they had their babies. Breed them, wait how ever long for each breed then pick up mom, give gentle shake and watch all the chicks fall out

 

[TsaLaGi Acres]

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I was lucky enough to come across a beautiful little size A hen that is a gorgeous chocolate mottled. Can't wait to see what she produces. I will try and get some pictures of her today and post them.

Oh I'd love to see pic's of them!! I'm still trying to figure out what colors ours are called/supposed to be called lol They are a few pages back.

 

[DiVon80]

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Bluegrass Seramas is most well-known for introducing the Frizzle gene to Seramas, but I beleive that Steve Wheat did it more recently. Somebody check my facts, because he's better known for his Silkies and Cochins.......

Back in 2003 or so (give or take a year either way) Brad and Teresa Williford (Carolinas somewhere) were working on Frizzled Seramas. So I think credit would have to go to the Willifords in this case. They did it by introducing the frizzled gene to Japs and from there to Seramas if I remember correctly what Brad told me. The Willifords were part of the ORIGINAL SCNA group, but left SCNA many years ago because they were dissatisfied with various things within SCNA, the foremost being the reluctance to turn it over to a governing body. For those newbies at SCNA who weren't around in the beginning, the "power couple" that Jerry refers to, is Brad and Teresa Williford, the originators, to the best of my knowledge, of the frizzled gene in seramas today. Glenda Heywood played a part in advising them as well. During this time period, the idea of a frizzled serama didn't take so to speak publically and they were just kept locked in the closet if you will. Recently they have made a revival again. There have been others in between the originals and now that have been getting frizzled seramas in their breeding programs. I can think of 4 right off the top of my head. So BlueGrass can be credited with the revival of the Frizzleds, but unfortunately original credit is due to another several years back.

The silkied gene, as best as anyone can tell, was infused into the genetics early on in the creation of the serama. It isn't recent. It is a gene frowned upon in Malaysia. I believe it is naturally occurring and the SILKIE bantam as we have here in the USA was NOT used in creating the silkied serama. I remember when it started popping up all of a sudden, and those birds had zero silkie bantam characteristics in them, not something that could have been bred out in just a couple of generations after their arrival to the USA.

TOTALLY Love This!!!

SCNA " Reluctance to turn it over to a governing body!!!" the good breeders leave and the puppets stay!

Thanks so much Julie you just answered my question.. Thanks again

 

[TsaLaGi Acres]

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Back in 2003 or so (give or take a year either way) Brad and Teresa Williford (Carolinas somewhere) were working on Frizzled Seramas. So I think credit would have to go to the Willifords in this case. They did it by introducing the frizzled gene to Japs and from there to Seramas if I remember correctly what Brad told me. The Willifords were part of the ORIGINAL SCNA group, but left SCNA many years ago because they were dissatisfied with various things within SCNA, the foremost being the reluctance to turn it over to a governing body. For those newbies at SCNA who weren't around in the beginning, the "power couple" that Jerry refers to, is Brad and Teresa Williford, the originators, to the best of my knowledge, of the frizzled gene in seramas today. Glenda Heywood played a part in advising them as well. During this time period, the idea of a frizzled serama didn't take so to speak publically and they were just kept locked in the closet if you will. Recently they have made a revival again. There have been others in between the originals and now that have been getting frizzled seramas in their breeding programs. I can think of 4 right off the top of my head. So BlueGrass can be credited with the revival of the Frizzleds, but unfortunately original credit is due to another several years back.

The silkied gene, as best as anyone can tell, was infused into the genetics early on in the creation of the serama. It isn't recent. It is a gene frowned upon in Malaysia. I believe it is naturally occurring and the SILKIE bantam as we have here in the USA was NOT used in creating the silkied serama. I remember when it started popping up all of a sudden, and those birds had zero silkie bantam characteristics in them, not something that could have been bred out in just a couple of generations after their arrival to the USA.

TOTALLY Love This!!!

SCNA " Reluctance to turn it over to a governing body!!!" the good breeders leave and the puppets stay!

Thanks so much Julie you just answered my question.. Thanks again

I personally take offense to that DiVon!! I just joined this group and knew nothing about what ever squabbles they have had within the governing policies (and frankly DONT CARE!!) I joined to learn not to be 'a groupy, or hold status, or be classified as a PUPPET'. There ARE some very INTELLIGENT people there and alot can be learned from those people!!! It's sad that those stated people left the group because of a tiff (no matter how big or small) They might of been a wonderful asset!! They dropped the ball so as far as governing ANYTHING they would be worthless to follow up on what needs to be done!! JMHO
As far as Bluegrass, I don't give a rip who started the frizzle or who brought it back into the gene pool Bluegrass has done extensive work with their birds and done a wonderful job, might I add!!! Again it sounds like the other people dropped the ball or they would of been the ones last yr to introduce the frizzled Serama at the shows. I'd consider it an honor to own birds from Bluegrass and am sure there are others out there that feel the same!!!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be a hard a** but good grief it just irritates me that ppl will throw a tantrum and whine to buddies all over the net, and then other people get blacklisted for having anything to do with 'said group or person' , for something that they had nothing to do with. Sounds like a bunch of lil' kids fighting over a candybar!!

Ok, I'll step off my soapbox and go set in my corner as I'm sure I'll be 'blacklisted' lol because of this rant!!

 

[friedeggs]

I don't think DiVon meant any disrespect to bluegrass. Just trying to enlighten people as to origins. I've seen Bluegrass's birds and they are quite nice. Doing good work. SUPER birds
She's doing it herself. She's NOT buying birds from a leading breeder and sticking her name on the offspring as though they were her own. Which I've seen happen too often.