~MALAYSIAN SERAMA THREAD~ (PICS!!!)

[Ok_Junebug]

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You should visit the SCNA (serama council of north america) http://www.scnaonline.org/ There is great info on there that explains everything. These upright birds are amazing really! Good luck in your Serama endeavors!

This is a GOOD question...and also a GOOD answer. The straight upright stance, large uplifted chest, and vertical wings and tail are defining factors of this breed....it comes through selective breeding. I'm seeing a lot of photos of birds that I can't even recognize as being serama. Every time I have a new prospective buyer, I always ask them, "What are your plans or your goals? What are you trying to do?" There is no wrong answer, but you need to follow a plan to whatever you hope to achieve. Even if you just want to enjoy the birds as pets, you still need a plan...choose birds that are sweet, friendly, not flighty, etc. If you want birds that LOOK like serama, then you have to work toward that. Just because somebody says, "Its a Serama" ...it doesn't make it so. If you want to raise Serama, then study what they're suppose to look like and breed toward that goal. Just my opinion.

 

[ZooMummzy]

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You should visit the SCNA (serama council of north america) http://www.scnaonline.org/ There is great info on there that explains everything. These upright birds are amazing really! Good luck in your Serama endeavors!

This is a GOOD question...and also a GOOD answer. The straight upright stance, large uplifted chest, and vertical wings and tail are defining factors of this breed....it comes through selective breeding. I'm seeing a lot of photos of birds that I can't even recognize as being serama. Every time I have a new prospective buyer, I always ask them, "What are your plans or your goals? What are you trying to do?" There is no wrong answer, but you need to follow a plan to whatever you hope to achieve. Even if you just want to enjoy the birds as pets, you still need a plan...choose birds that are sweet, friendly, not flighty, etc. If you want birds that LOOK like serama, then you have to work toward that. Just because somebody says, "Its a Serama" ...it doesn't make it so. If you want to raise Serama, then study what they're suppose to look like and breed toward that goal. Just my opinion.

Thank you for your reply and that detailed information. I have visited the site many times and I'm in the process of becoming a member. Sometimes I just like to hear what others think instead of reading articles all the time. You can get a lot better and more personalized answers.

 

[froggiesheins]

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Those are some right cool looking birdies ya got there! I like the OEGB colorings on them.....
I am new to this whole Serama world and ridiculously curious, when you say lil man is too big, what does he weigh? I understand about the class A B C weights and all.......

 

[Inkheart]

In reality how difficult would it be to start with some larger birds that have good genetics - meet the SOP pretty close - but are bigger in size? Have type - all the rest - just bigger? I have been considering doing this - just a good genetic start!?

 

[BHep]

I have some larger birds Ds , ok type, great personality and colors. But...I have hatched out bunches and have 3 that MAY end up Bs if I'm lucky. ( all cockerels) I have stopped breeding them. Besides I mostly hatch cockerels. I can't even get rid of them. I am going to try to re home all my seramas and start over with a nice small pair.
Good Luck

 

[Inkheart]

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Did you start with the D's then? These were not hatched from B's or anything ?
I am not planning on showing but what is bred at my place - i want to be of good quality - type - and personality - but not so sure size matters to me THAT much -

 

[Chickenaddict]

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very nice!! what color do you call those? and how big is to big?

I have no idea what colors to call them altho lil man looks like a bb red in color, Godzilla is still changing... Too big to me is a d class bird. I have a few running around here that are 20 oz or more, the biggest is about 24 oz but one of my original seramas. The smallest hen I have here weighs 8.2 oz and godzilla is so far the smallest roo I have.

 

[shelleyd2008]

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The only place that still used the "a, b, and c" classes is the Cajun Classic show in LA. Otherwise they should follow these weights:

Pullets: 12 ounces (+/- 20%--2.4 ounces)--so a pullet (female under 1 year) can weigh between 9.6 ounces and 14.4 ounces.
Hens/cockerels: 14 ounces (+/- 20%--2.8 ounces)--so a hen (female over 1 year) or cockerel (male under 1 year) can weigh between 11.2 and 16.8 ounces.
Cocks: 16 ounces (+/- 20%--3.2 ounces)--so a cock (male over 1 year) can weigh between 12.8 and 19.2 ounces.

These are the standards for showing. If you have a bird on the high end of the weight you can still get offspring well within the weight requirements. Personally, I'd rather have the bigger birds since I've read a lot of people saying that the smaller ones have fertility/laying problems.

 

[BookWorm243]

I am looking at these and cant decide if it is just a really bad picture or if they are just bad type. So I thought I would ask you guys, I am new to seramas and still trying to figure it all out.


Sorry for the bad picture

Thanks

 

[Gordonhillfarm]

All of it should matter. How can it not matter and still be callled Serama?? Type is the first. Priority for me then size and personality . I would think all of these Qualitys would be important to everyone
raiseing and breeding Seramas . Just some thoughts ----- Tammy