Marans - SOP discussion thread

[Wynette]

I think that's part of what makes a good breeder "good" - the day you think you've got your breed perfect, you should probably throw in the towel!

 

[gilavina]

I think that's part of what makes a good breeder "good" - the day you think you've got your breed perfect, you should probably throw in the towel!

haha indeed. I admit, I really love the challenge of the Marans and seeing how each breeding seasons things get a bit closer to what I have imagined in my mind is exactly what they could be.

 

[Wynette]

It's a good feeling, eh? You want a challenge, though? Work with me on Silver Penciled Plymouth Rock! Goodness!!

 

[gilavina]

It's a good feeling, eh? You want a challenge, though? Work with me on Silver Penciled Plymouth Rock! Goodness!!

You know what I want more than anything? Is some decent enough quality Silver Penciled Wyandottes to get started working on. That's my other favorite pattern beside birchen and I adore the wyandottes. Down this way, there is absolutely nothing in the way of Large Fowl Ones.

 

[Wynette]

Are there silver penciled 'dotties, or just the silver laced? Regardless, the pattern breeds are so much more difficult than solid colors. Can be VERY frustrating.

 

[DMRippy]

Are there silver penciled 'dotties, or just the silver laced?  Regardless, the pattern breeds are so much more difficult than solid colors.  Can be VERY frustrating.

both and I have both....not good SPW

 

[gilavina]

Are there silver penciled 'dotties, or just the silver laced? Regardless, the pattern breeds are so much more difficult than solid colors. Can be VERY frustrating.

The Silver Penciled used to be one of the most popular colors of Wyandottes, until the Silver Laced were developed. The Silver Laced became the go to color and the Pencileds fell out of favor. Its sad that both now are very difficult to find in good quality and with good fertility.

 

[math ace]

I've always understood that the back should slope slightly downward towards the tail. Haven't heard anything about an upward slope. Would this discussion have happened when I was away? And was there reasoning given for the change?

It was only a few months ago I think that the discussion occurred... and this is what I have as the proposed SOP

BACK: Wide at the shoulders, long, flat, slightly tilted to the rear. Slightly more inclined than that of the female.
Saddle feathers -- abundant, saddle large and slightly raised.

Once again, the SOP should be clearer about this. I should not need a picture to understand that the "slightly tilted" is downhill tilt, especially when the next line speaks of an incline.
It needs to clearly state - slightly more inclined at shoulders than that of the female... something is just not clear here.

Maybe the standard in its final copy was more clearly stated than in the proposed form...

 

[math ace]

Dear Lord, I need to stay away from the computer today LOL...
I just posted my response on the wrong thread... Uggh...

Let me see if I can copy it over here!



This is from 8/25/13

Quote:
Originally Posted by math ace

BACK: Wide at the shoulders, long, flat, slightly tilted to the rear. Slightly more inclined than that of the female.
Saddle feathers -- abundant, saddle large and slightly raised.

OBTW: Those in a position to talk to the SOP writers, I think this statement should be changed to read either ...

Slightly tilted downward to the rear
OR
Slightly tilted upward to the rear

 

[math ace]

Well that didn't go well....