Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

Hey guys I'm going to pick up Blue Copper Marans, or maybe it was Blue Marans chicks tomorrow to add to my brand new flock tomorrow are there anyways to sex them? They are less than a week old. From local breeder www.texasbirdsofafeather.com I hope not to have any roos
 
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fluffy butts!!!! I want fluffy butts!!! Only 14 more days here on some Orps and Sussex eggs.

What came out of the little bitty white eggs? They look almost like bobwhite eggs compared to those big Marans eggs.

what color sussex ya got cookin?

Coronation Sussex with some Lavender and BBS Orps. Should be hatching on the 25th.
 
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agreed on the egg color and being easier for the selling eggs. Did you create those girls in just one cross or how did you end up with those? They really are striking
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Well long story, but the yellow leg popped up in one of my hatches. I had only kept a BCM cockerel and a hen after culling from several hatches.
I also had one unrelated Blue Copper that lays the darkest egg so I was mainly hatching from her. The yellow is a recessive and also both parents
must be split for it for it to show. I also quickly began using a nicer son that was not carrying yellow, and hatched mostly from him. None of his offspring
would ever show the yellow, but some would be split for it. So it took me awhile to find out my original BCM pair were split for the yellow.

I am for the most part happy with the conformation and egg color of my Marans, so I did not want to start over. I have not had the white feather or
comb things and figured if I started over I would just get another set of "issues". I did a "consult" with Roger (Village Chicken) as to how to test them for pure legs.
He said when paired with a yellow legged rooster any hen split for yellow would throw approx. 50% yellow legged chicks. So I waited a month after removing the roo
and put my Wellie boy with them. I did two separate hatches; collecting, IDing and separating each hens eggs for hatch. I toe punched the chicks. From 6 hens I hatched
78 chicks. I kept them all for two weeks then sold most as 2.00 dark egg laying "mutts". I kept a few because they were so stinkin' cute and I wanted to see what
kind of layers they would be.

Out of 78 chicks not one appeared to have yellow/green legs. But a few weeks ago I looked at the bottoms of these girls feet, and one has yellow soles. A clear difference
from the pinkish white of the rest. This is that girl...no yellow beak or legs as you would expect, but clearly yellow soles:
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So I've IDed one carrier but feel I have to retest them all again
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keeping them longer and carefully checking the soles.
 
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agreed on the egg color and being easier for the selling eggs. Did you create those girls in just one cross or how did you end up with those? They really are striking
love.gif


Well long story, but the yellow leg popped up in one of my hatches. I had only kept a BCM cockerel and a hen after culling from several hatches.
I also had one unrelated Blue Copper that lays the darkest egg so I was mainly hatching from her. The yellow is a recessive and also both parents
must be split for it for it to show. I also quickly began using a nicer son that was not carrying yellow, and hatched mostly from him. None of his offspring
would ever show the yellow, but some would be split for it. So it took me awhile to find out my original BCM pair were split for the yellow.

I am for the most part happy with the conformation and egg color of my Marans, so I did not want to start over. I have not had the white feather or
comb things and figured if I started over I would just get another set of "issues". I did a "consult" with Roger (Village Chicken) as to how to test them for pure legs.
He said when paired with a yellow legged rooster any hen split for yellow would throw approx. 50% yellow legged chicks. So I waited a month after removing the roo
and put my Wellie boy with them. I did two separate hatches; collecting, IDing and separating each hens eggs for hatch. I toe punched the chicks. From 6 hens I hatched
78 chicks. I kept them all for two weeks then sold most as 2.00 dark egg laying "mutts". I kept a few because they were so stinkin' cute and I wanted to see what
kind of layers they would be.

Out of 78 chicks not one appeared to have yellow/green legs. But a few weeks ago I looked at the bottoms of these girls feet, and one has yellow soles. A clear difference
from the pinkish white of the rest. This is that girl...no yellow beak or legs as you would expect, but clearly yellow soles:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/40145_dsc01153.jpg

So I've IDed one carrier but feel I have to retest them all again
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keeping them longer and carefully checking the soles.

that's an interesting story. How many of those girlies did you keep all together then? On the yellow soled birds...that doesn't surprise me at all....in bantam Wyandottes in the BBS it will pop up from time to time where a line has darker legs and I have to work the opposite direction you are...I work towards bringing the yellow out in them. I always check the bottoms of the feet as the females grow. For me in the Wyandotte bantams when I've seen it, it is only in the females. So, I think if you are working in the opposites direction you should do ok as long as you know which girl she was out of. think you'll do another round of test mating on all your original hens then? or just the suspect?
 
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I'm sure all of you have heard that a Watched Pot Never Boils well. Haha
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aparently what they don't tell you is that A WATCHED EGG NEVER PIPS!!!!
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R&H,

Thats a neat looking hatcher/ incubator? Actually, is it your incubator or just a hatching box? if there is such a thing?

I have been in the market for an incubator, so inquiring minds want to know? I also think it would be fun to make one! I am very handy......EXCEPT when it comes to electrical Sh-tuff.
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The suspect is already gone. If ANY offspring hatch with yellow legs then that hen is split for yellow. The difficult
part of this is identifying each hens eggs. Some lay very distinctive ones, others lay similar, so I have to check nests
every 20 min to catch them in the act. As I eliminate any "carriers" it will be easier to test. With the 50% chance
I figure to hatch 10-12 more of the remaining to be sure. I also toe punched the chicks I sold and have asked
everyone that bought them to check soles and report any yellow with corresponding toe punch, but haven't
heard back from anyone yet.

One of the things I did to double check my results was to breed my third generation together. Everyone says
not to do the brother/sister cross as it emphasizes everything they are carrying, but it can be very informative.
I hatched about 30 chicks and got one with yellow legs. So I know that the cockerel and at least one pullet of that
generation is split. Here is that guy...so he is "gone" too.
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Now this cross produced some really nice offspring otherwise....good copper hackled females, nice bodies,
well feathered, descent combs. So I am not throwing any under the bus just yet. I plan to test the ones with the
best egg color as well as retesting my originals again. Due to the low numbers of yellow legged chicks I am getting,
it's possible only a couple are split. I figure all I need is a pure cock and a couple of pure hens to go forward once
I get all this test hatching done.
 
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R&H,

Thats a neat looking hatcher/ incubator? Actually, is it your incubator or just a hatching box? if there is such a thing?

I have been in the market for an incubator, so inquiring minds want to know? I also think it would be fun to make one! I am very handy......EXCEPT when it comes to electrical Sh-tuff.
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it is made from a cooler, it is the incubator and hatcher all in one. We looked on the how to make thread here on BYC and then my DH went from there. The cooler is probably 2 feet long x 1 foot wide and about 16" high. Most of the top has a plexi glass window for veiwing. It works very well and I am able to keep the temp. adjusted to run with little amount of swing. Humidity take a bit more playing with and depends on what time of the year we are in. We like to run our hatches dry: we keep it around 35% for 1-18 days and then for the final days somewhere between 50% to 56%.
 
My first Wheaten Marans (actually my first Marans). Ignore the one chick that wouldn't get out of the pic, thats my newest OE. At what age can you determine if you have roos or gals? Thanks!


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Hey guys I'm going to pick up Blue Copper Marans, or maybe it was Blue Marans chicks tomorrow to add to my brand new flock tomorrow are there anyways to sex them? They are less than a week old. From local breeder www.texasbirdsofafeather.com I hope not to have any roos

I don't believe you will be able to tell the boys from the girls until about 3 weeks old. Then you can start to guess. Have to wait for comb development with them.

Good luck! And pictures are ALWAYS welcome!!
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