Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[Debbi]

Wow Pink, thanks! You must've had quite a few cups of java already!

I will print that out for sure!

 

[Lotsapaints]

Thanks Pink as I have a beautiful so far Splash roo I'm going to cross him with my BC females I wish his brother was as nice he's a Blue Copper but so far he's not a keeper so I would have 100% Blue Coppers but then if I breed them back to the sire I would have 50% Splash 50% Blue? My Splash roo is from a very dark egg but you say the splashes eggs are not as dark and of course I want to have the darkest eggs I can get. I'm choosing my hens on conformation and egg color so far I have 2 that are good enough so I would breed them back to a Blue son? Then cross back any Black Copper hens to the Splash Roo? I hope this is making sense....I don't mind Splash but I don't want my birds to get pale and washed out colorwise.....

 

[geebs]

Round of Applause for Pink Homage to the blue/pink queen... !!! kudos...

Very eloquently put.... I especially like the way you explain using the term "leaky"... that is a very visual term...

 

[Debbi]

Lotsapaints ,

Is your Splash roo carrying the copper gene? If so, wouldn't that resulting breeding end up being blue copper and Splash copper? I get confused when the Splashes come into play!

 

[Debbi]

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X2 !

 

[pawtraitart]

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I think this guy is awesome

Such nice conformation at only 20 weeks of age!

I really like the way his back flows into his tail. Since we don't have an SOP illustration
of the perfect BCM, we have to use our imaginations to picture one using the proposed standard
as a guide. This is my idea of what that looks like, only with saddle feathers colored more like
the hackles, slate legs, and a cleaner blade on the comb. Nice bird!...very nice size and eye color

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As for breeding, use him with hens with slate legs...I believe the slate is dominate over white.
(That is if the proposed color standard of slate is also in the final standard). With his nice copper hackles
he should throw a good number of hens with correct coppering.

disclaimer: I am not an expert, nor do I play one on this board...

...I just read and reread the standards and try to apply them IRL.

How dark should a roosters legs be? I see that in the first picture I posted they look lighter than they actually are. When looking at them in person he has grey legs with a pinkish undertone on the back of his legs and under his toes. My pullets, on the other hand, are darker.

 

[fowlman01]

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It also say this: the hen must be "black with not too many glints, with a coppery hackle and a black or lightly reddish-brown marked breast."

Here is the Standard as proposed by the MCC. the legs should be slate. No shade of slate is mentioned.

Color of Female

Disqualifications: Brown spotting on the body.

The Hen:
The hen must be black with a copper hackle.

Comb, Face, Wattles and Earlobes: Bright red.

Beak: Dark horn.

Eyes: Reddish bay.

Shanks and Toes: Dark Slate, bottom of feet pinkish white.

Head: Copper. ( varying from mid-copper to red-copper ).

Neck:
Hackle—Copper with a black-colored tip. ( spreading out almost down to the breast ).
Front of neck—Copper

Back: Black.

Tail: Black.

Wings: Black.

Breast: Black.

Body and Stern: Black.

Legs & Lower Thighs—Black.

Shank and Toe Feathering—Black.

Ear Down - Black


Walt

 

[geebs]

This is a matter up for debate... For Black copper...

My personal choice... Is a lighter grey with pink to the inside leg... (can be dark pink/red) for the males..

The choice for females is the dark shank.... Female melaniser is a lot harder to control but it is important that we breed correct female or the next generation of males will not turn out... Still a work in progress for me.

This is my opinion... others may chime in with theirs.

 

[Debbi]

Hi Walt,

Yes, I saw that too. Seems they (French) want a complete "collar" of the copper on the hen's hackles, but here, at least for me, I mostly see the coppering on the backsideof the hens necks and on the head. So, is this not the same here in the proposed SOP?

 

[Debbi]

Ok, thanks Walt!