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Walt, posted the complete breakdown for points once before. Squirrel tail is a DQ.
Walt, posted the complete breakdown for points once before. Squirrel tail is a DQ.
Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!
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Ruth:
You are so right....the Bethel Farm Marans.....I'm anxiously waiting for my little "Bethels" that are going along in the incubator.
I know why we refer to the "Davis, Jeane. etc" line of birds but in truth when one goes out and picks a rooster and a hen to mate that then becomes their "line". They chose the matings......they just became breeders !! We all need to be doing the same thing...our flocks are our line......Saying that birds "originated" from certain genetics I think is acceptable....but when you make the selections or cull birds the breeding process just became yours......not anyone else's.
I have a very nice set of Wheatens that I love....they are extremely nice standard wise and lay very dark eggs. The gentleman I got them from has worked on them for a few years and I consider them his line.......I refer to them as his line of Wheatens even though he told me exactly where the birds originated and the crosses that he made to get them to this point. The work was his...therefore the credit is his. I think the same should apply to anyone working diligently on a breeding program....the work is theirs, therefore the credit is theirs.....win, lose, or draw.
IF I arrive at a point that I feel that my breeding program justifies it.....will be referred to as the Rocky Springs line....Otherwise, I am going to be real quiet !
Incidentally, I've personally seen Ruth's birds and there are some awesome girls there....
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You are so right....the Bethel Farm Marans.....I'm anxiously waiting for my little "Bethels" that are going along in the incubator.
I know why we refer to the "Davis, Jeane. etc" line of birds but in truth when one goes out and picks a rooster and a hen to mate that then becomes their "line". They chose the matings......they just became breeders !! We all need to be doing the same thing...our flocks are our line......Saying that birds "originated" from certain genetics I think is acceptable....but when you make the selections or cull birds the breeding process just became yours......not anyone else's.
I have a very nice set of Wheatens that I love....they are extremely nice standard wise and lay very dark eggs. The gentleman I got them from has worked on them for a few years and I consider them his line.......I refer to them as his line of Wheatens even though he told me exactly where the birds originated and the crosses that he made to get them to this point. The work was his...therefore the credit is his. I think the same should apply to anyone working diligently on a breeding program....the work is theirs, therefore the credit is theirs.....win, lose, or draw.
IF I arrive at a point that I feel that my breeding program justifies it.....will be referred to as the Rocky Springs line....Otherwise, I am going to be real quiet !
Incidentally, I've personally seen Ruth's birds and there are some awesome girls there....
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Finally found the post I was looking for. The way I understood Don's post was that the standard called for solid copper hackle and saddle feathers but the american versions of BCMs all have a two-toned feather with black center and copper border. So am I misunderstanding or is the point that the proposed standard isn't specific enough? In other words, should it say "black center with copper border". Also, how much of the two-toned should be showing? I'm guessing it should appear to be solid copper but only upon close observation and examination should you see the black. But, like always, I have several examples of each so I'm prepared for whatever gets finalized.
Finally found the post I was looking for. The way I understood Don's post was that the standard called for solid copper hackle and saddle feathers but the american versions of BCMs all have a two-toned feather with black center and copper border. So am I misunderstanding or is the point that the proposed standard isn't specific enough? In other words, should it say "black center with copper border". Also, how much of the two-toned should be showing? I'm guessing it should appear to be solid copper but only upon close observation and examination should you see the black. But, like always, I have several examples of each so I'm prepared for whatever gets finalized.
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Finally found the post I was looking for. The way I understood Don's post was that the standard called for solid copper hackle and saddle feathers but the american versions of BCMs all have a two-toned feather with black center and copper border. So am I misunderstanding or is the point that the proposed standard isn't specific enough? In other words, should it say "black center with copper border". Also, how much of the two-toned should be showing? I'm guessing it should appear to be solid copper but only upon close observation and examination should you see the black. But, like always, I have several examples of each so I'm prepared for whatever gets finalized.
Maybe Don is referring to shafting when he states "black center of the feather"? Good question, Monique.
Finally found the post I was looking for. The way I understood Don's post was that the standard called for solid copper hackle and saddle feathers but the american versions of BCMs all have a two-toned feather with black center and copper border. So am I misunderstanding or is the point that the proposed standard isn't specific enough? In other words, should it say "black center with copper border". Also, how much of the two-toned should be showing? I'm guessing it should appear to be solid copper but only upon close observation and examination should you see the black. But, like always, I have several examples of each so I'm prepared for whatever gets finalized.
Maybe Don is referring to shafting when he states "black center of the feather"? Good question, Monique.
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Thanks so much and it was such a pleasure meeting you and your husband. It's always a joy to meet fellow BYCers. I hope you have a great hatch. They were the last of the eggs from my pen of "better" birds (the hens in the picture I recently posted). This Spring I'll start individual breeding, tagging and record keeping so they will indeed be my own line of Bethels.
I've learned that I'll just post pics of my birds and their eggs and say "these are the parents" and people can decide on their own whether or not they want the eggs or chicks.
Thanks so much and it was such a pleasure meeting you and your husband. It's always a joy to meet fellow BYCers. I hope you have a great hatch. They were the last of the eggs from my pen of "better" birds (the hens in the picture I recently posted). This Spring I'll start individual breeding, tagging and record keeping so they will indeed be my own line of Bethels.
I've learned that I'll just post pics of my birds and their eggs and say "these are the parents" and people can decide on their own whether or not they want the eggs or chicks.
been lurking here from the beginning and learning SO MUCH! just wondering if anyone out there is planning on bringing any of their birds to the Ohio National next month? would LOVE to see some of these beauties in person!
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Finally found the post I was looking for. The way I understood Don's post was that the standard called for solid copper hackle and saddle feathers but the american versions of BCMs all have a two-toned feather with black center and copper border. So am I misunderstanding or is the point that the proposed standard isn't specific enough? In other words, should it say "black center with copper border". Also, how much of the two-toned should be showing? I'm guessing it should appear to be solid copper but only upon close observation and examination should you see the black. But, like always, I have several examples of each so I'm prepared for whatever gets finalized.
Here is a pic of Pip, hopefully, you can see the coloring of his hackles. Is this what Don was referring to? 10 weeks old in the pic.
Finally found the post I was looking for. The way I understood Don's post was that the standard called for solid copper hackle and saddle feathers but the american versions of BCMs all have a two-toned feather with black center and copper border. So am I misunderstanding or is the point that the proposed standard isn't specific enough? In other words, should it say "black center with copper border". Also, how much of the two-toned should be showing? I'm guessing it should appear to be solid copper but only upon close observation and examination should you see the black. But, like always, I have several examples of each so I'm prepared for whatever gets finalized.
Here is a pic of Pip, hopefully, you can see the coloring of his hackles. Is this what Don was referring to? 10 weeks old in the pic.
Welcome 6littlechickies!
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