Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[Ripster]

The approved Marans standard calls for Reddish Bay colored eyes. Personally I'm not a fan of abbreviations since I'm sometimes unsure of what people are trying to say. But them I'm getting old. lol

 

[Russel Crowe]

Love the "blue" boxes.

 

[MandyFitch]

The approved Marans standard calls for Reddish Bay colored eyes. Personally I'm not a fan of abbreviations since I'm sometimes unsure of what people are trying to say. But them I'm getting old. lol

 

[ladycat]

I'm looking for pure bred black-tailed buff chicks that could be mailed to me. That's a really hard color variety to find.

Does anyone know any reliable breeders who will ship this variety of chicks? (NOT Cedar Creek Hatchery. The chicks I got from them have been crossed with Wheatons).

 

[KsKingBee]

Doesn't look like anyone on the 'Marans Thread' knows, have you checked the 'Pure bred black-tailed buff thread'?

 

[3riverschick]

I'm looking for pure bred black-tailed buff chicks that could be mailed to me. That's a really hard color variety to find.

Does anyone know any reliable breeders who will ship this variety of chicks? (NOT Cedar Creek Hatchery. The chicks I got from them have been crossed with Wheatons).

Hi,
Almost 2 years go, I shipped a couple of stunning pure BTB hens to Mr. Fox in Ohio. They came from Golden Salmon parents which carried BTB genes. The neat thing about them was they carried the Mh gene which gave them that lovely rich color. Something not often seen in BTB Marans. Their parents came from Harmony Hill farm in Barnesville Georgia, whose Golden Salmon Marans were known for siring both GSM and BTB Marans, a very valuable thing. Anyway, I know Mr. Fox info is on the Net as is Harmony Hills Farm.
Golden Salmon ( e+/e+ s+/s(-), is recessive to BTB. So when BTB shows up from GSM parents, it is pure BTB. I shipped them out because I was looking to breed GSM and couldn't use them. Mr, Fox had a cock which needed hens. I don't know how his breeding program is progressing, have not heard from him in many months as I gave up on GSM and moved to Light Sussex which I really like.
Best,
Karen Tewart
in western PA, USA

Where did the Mh gene come from if both parents were GSM? If I researched the purebred cock's ancestry correctly, and I think I did, I believe he was a carrier of the Mh gene while manifesting proper GSM coloring. I believe he only carried one copy of Mh as he sired both BTB and GSM. I do believe he was a proper GSM and not crossed with Wheaton. I do not believe there was any Wheaton in the parents of my birds.

 

[ladycat]

I'm puzzled. I set 14 eggs from my splash trio on Oct 3. The temperature in the bator has remained at the correct temperature the entire time.

Yesterday, day 21, no chicks, no pipping.

Today, day 22, they are hatching.

I wonder why they're a day late? I have a Brinsea, and the same incubator has been hatching the chicks on day 21 since I've had it, until now.

 

[Broad St Farm]

I'm puzzled. I set 14 eggs from my splash trio on Oct 3. The temperature in the bator has remained at the correct temperature the entire time.

Yesterday, day 21, no chicks, no pipping.

Today, day 22, they are hatching.

I wonder why they're a day late?  I have a Brinsea, and the same incubator has been hatching the chicks on day 21 since I've had it, until now.

Lots of factors go into hatches. I would be happy that they are hatching. I have heard Marans eggs tend to run on the late side. Mine would run a day early. I read a hatch article on Brinseas website. They said the best hatch temp is 100.6. This is what I ran my sportsman at. Even though some of my birds hatched a bit early I had a 95% hatch rate on most of my hatches. And this was also while I was staggering trays so I had a hatch each week. Just turn your temp down a half degree and see what happens next time.

 

[pawtraitart]

Hi,
Almost 2 years go, I shipped a couple of stunning pure BTB hens to Mr. Fox in Ohio. They came from Golden Salmon parents which carried BTB genes. The neat thing about them was they carried the Mh gene which gave them that lovely rich color. Something not often seen in BTB Marans. Their parents came from Harmony Hill farm in Barnesville Georgia, whose Golden Salmon Marans were known for siring both GSM and BTB Marans, a very valuable thing. Anyway, I know Mr. Fox info is on the Net as is Harmony Hills Farm.
Golden Salmon ( e+/e+ s+/s(-), is recessive to BTB. So when BTB shows up from GSM parents, it is pure BTB. I shipped them out because I was looking to breed GSM and couldn't use them. Mr, Fox had a cock which needed hens. I don't know how his breeding program is progressing, have not heard from him in many months as I gave up on GSM and moved to Light Sussex which I really like.
Best,
Karen Tewart
in western PA, USA

Where did the Mh gene come from if both parents were GSM? If I researched the purebred cock's ancestry correctly, and I think I did, I believe he was a carrier of the Mh gene while manifesting proper GSM coloring. I believe he only carried one copy of Mh as he sired both BTB and GSM. I do believe he was a proper GSM and not crossed with Wheaton. I do not believe there was any Wheaton in the parents of my birds.

The correct e allele for pure BTB is the same as for wheatens. BTB are not supposed to be e+/e+ so a bird that looks like a BTB out of a GSM pen is a crop out, not pure. Pure BTB are: eWh/eWh Mh/Mh Db/Db Di/Di. I'm only mentioning it because the BTB variety is widely misunderstood. It's frustrating trying to build a BTB line when there are so many mixed birds out there. Please don't take my comments as an attack. It's just that I care deeply about this color variety of Marans.

 

[familypendragon]

I'm puzzled. I set 14 eggs from my splash trio on Oct 3. The temperature in the bator has remained at the correct temperature the entire time.

Yesterday, day 21, no chicks, no pipping.

Today, day 22, they are hatching.

I wonder why they're a day late?  I have a Brinsea, and the same incubator has been hatching the chicks on day 21 since I've had it, until now.

Up until our recent cold front hit and brought fall with it, I always had pips day 20, hatched out by the end of day 21. Suddenly all my chicks were hatching a day late. I turned my temp up just .3 degrees and now they are back to hatching at the normal time.