Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[Illia]

And Illia is soo stalking this thread.



Seriously though, no, I'm not that knowledgeable. I'm sure Henk or Sonaran can easily trump my "knowledge."

 

[gilavina]

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haha uh oh....were your ears burning?

I didn't recognize your avatar...did you change it?

Maybe you can weigh in...how hard is it to eliminate the copper gene?

 

[chevgrl]

.... I'm sleepy better hit the hay... now that I think about it nobody ever comment of the guys question a while back

kinda makes me feel bad. Goodnight Vicki.

 

[gilavina]

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I must have missed it I think

And I need to be getting myself to sleep here soon too. I gotta get myself to work early.
sleep well Anna

 

[Illia]

Yeah, I changed it.


From personal experience I don't know, but I had a discussion a little while ago with someone on breeding it out, and, personally I think it can be a tricky process but not too hard. The thing is - You can't just breed it out and get a solid blue/black though unless you had a solid to begin with somewhere in your flock.

Solid BBS are E/E at the e locus. Black Coppers are different, they're E^R/E^R. Sure there are Black Coppers with very little coppering but I don't think you can just keep breeding it out till you have solid colored birds who are still technically Brown-Red/Birchens (E^R) But,

on the history of the color.

Personally I had the thought Blues were created from introduction. They're almost always skinnier/more refined in build and have paler eggs, so it just seems to make sense. I'm no big Marans wiz though. I like to stick to my color(s) and help out people curious of the whole Golden Cuckoo thing. . . . There seems to be so much misconception and confusion on that.



I will say though - If you want to introduce Lavender, my last choice would be in Orpingtons. My two cents.

 

[gilavina]

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Thanks. I've been trying to remember where I read that about the blues coming from coppers... I don't know if it was on a forum or where it was. What you are saying does make sense tho..and it would make sense why the egg color is harder to find as dark as the BCMs. Do you think maybe the blues weren't as popular and over time got kind of swallowed up into BCM or Blue copper flocks? I'm really wanting to find some solids and work with them, but it makes me curious if I'm just chasing a phantom of sorts, if you know what I mean?

I admit too that I don't know much about the golden cuckoos or how it works or etc.

I don't have any aspirations of lavender Marans...my pet projects are the birchens and solid blues....but if you were to work on a lavender Marans project, what would you cross them with? just curious now that you mentioned it.

I like your photo by the way

 

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Hello Illia I have a blue hen that is rather stout in build and was hoping that the little splash posted back a few pages was male so that I could propagate blue Marans flock. But most say that she is a pullet. But if I do find a splash male or even a blue wheaten...................Could I effectively breed out the wheaten to make an all blue flock after say five generations. What do you think ?

 

[chevgrl]

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Haha @least we were talking good things on the thread... you should have seen the PMs just Kidding.

 

[gilavina]

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Haha @least we were talking good things on the thread... you should have seen the PMs just Kidding.

haha stirrin trouble like a good redhead I see

 

[chevgrl]

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Haha @least we were talking good things on the thread... you should have seen the PMs just Kidding.

haha stirrin trouble like a good redhead I see

Yes Ma'am

good thing my mom doesn't watch these threads! Illia was watching, us in agony, laughing while we discussed information we didn't know... haha!