Marans Thread for Posting Pics of Your Eggs, Chicks and Chickens

[geebs]

Stress... Ahappychick It is raining again... That fact alone can stress a bird out. And birdcage swithching or picking up of a particular bird???

 

[pinkchick]

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Breeding a Black Copper or Blue Copper to a solid black or blue hen or visa versa will give you blue and black babies but they will not be pure black copper or blue copper or solids. They will be mixed if you will, but still pure Marans of course only if they lay an egg that qualifies. They would not feather out correctly to be considered a certain color variety of Marans. A person can make the blue and black coppers this way but it would take several generations to breed out any unwanted traits. The amount of copper that the chicks will have will depend on how much copper the parents have to contribute.

This is the way it works but it seems to me a person has to set a large number of eggs not sure how many....I wouldn't think that these percentages would be the same out of a small hatch.

Blue x Blue =25% Black, 25% Splash and 50% Blue
Splash x Splash = 100% Splash
Blue x Splash 50% Blue , 50% Splash
Splash x Black = 100% Blue
Blue x Black = 50% Blue, 50% Black
Black x Black =100% Black

Hope this helps!

What if you cross a wheaten and a black copper?? What do you get?

hmmmmm........pretty much a big genetic mess is my understanding and I wouldn't cross them. I believe that there are some issues already regarding this in some lines of Marans. I don't work with Wheatens so I cannot tell you much about them or their genetic makeup, I can tell you that they are absolutely gorgeous! Hoping someone comes along to guide you with this one! Sorry!

 

[geebs]

Wheaton comes from Black copper.... That much I know. I feel that would just hide the wheaton back in the line as opposed to separating it out...Where is Aalbury when ya need her...I will see if I can find her to answer that question...

 

[AHappychick]

It has been raining on an off, but they dont seem stressed in anyway. Right now its just the 4 pullets, and olive egger and Marty, all the older hens have been moved so that I may see what the young ones are laying. I guess it could be stress but I dont know how to stop it as no one is picked on or even missing a single feather.

also dont worry pinkchick when I said cull I ment sell her I would not process her. who ever it is...

 

[pinkchick]

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See what I know?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Thanks Geebs! I find that I get tunnel vision and get stuck on the color varieties that I work with and tend to not hold on to info on the others. I should delve a little further into these things but space in the ol' knoggin is limited if ya know what I mean!

 

[flgardengirl]

Okay so I've been gawking at everyone else's pics for awhile. Time for me to put up some of mine lol. Here are some of my blue and black copper Roos. These pics were taken at about 3 1/2 mos of age so they are still developing thier copper coloring on thier saddle feathers and getting in tail feathering etc. They seem to get more and more every few days or so. They are all BIG boys so far!!

Zeus (He has real pretty blue coloring and thinks ..no, *Knows* he's the boss) He is a tad bit light in the hackles though but I like him.

Zeus (with Achilles)

Aries (He is second most dominant in the blue coppers) He is always starting cr@p with all the other lower roos. He is probably gonna be my best colored blue copper though.

Achilles (so named because he got a bum leg for a while from fighting with Aries..all better now) He has the darkest coloring of my blue copper roos. So dark blue he is almost black!

Hes saying in this pic "Come on Aries start sumpin now!" lol

Neptune: This guy is frickin HUGE bigger than all the others although you can't tell from this pic. He is going in the Olive Egger Pen because he is just too wierd. But his color is really awesome in person (not proper for a blue copper but really neat looking). DD calls him Snuffallugafus (sp) like on Sesame Street because he is too hairy and practically has snowboots.

Monsieur Amour: This guy will prob be my best Black Copper Roo..he was about 3 mos old in this pic. His only major fault is he has too many points on his comb..will have to work with that. I think he will make pretty babies and all the girls LOV3 him. DH calls him Monsieur Amour because he is always surrounded by the girls lol.

With some of his BCM girls except for a americauna girl who squeezed in next to him. (didn't have them all separated yet)

 

[AHappychick]

oh I really like Aries lacing and Achilles look. Marty had a bum leg for over 2 months! he lived in a sling for over 3 weeks and with a brace for a month. I nearly culled him 3 different times as I thought he would never get better, but he always had such a strong will to live that I never did. You would never know he had any issues.

 

[Chickaholic]

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Thank you!! I have a Wheaten Marans hen and roo (both of Bev Davis line) and a Black Copper hen (Wade Jean I think) I was just wondering in case they were in the same pen together,you know, if anything were to happen between the wheaten and the black copper.....

I was told that I would get wheaten, but I don't want to mess up my breeding program, so I guess I will just keep them seperate because I just want all wheaten.

 

[chickenherder]

You get more of the same problems we are already dealing with having straw colored hackles showing up on Black Copper Marans roosters and mossiness in the hens. Unless the proposed APA standard is changed to allow straw hackles it is not something you want if you are breeding to the French standard which states it is a "serious defect".

The problem has shown up from the early Wade Jeane line that so many people have. Just look at the roosters you see in the ads for hatching eggs or chicks if you need an example of what they look like, there are a LOT of them out there.

Since more people are aware of this problem often the straw hackles are cropped out of the pictures.

To quote David Hancox earlier in this thread:

Yes the difference is that the US Standard allows some red on the breast, the French Standard requires sparse red ticking on the breast.
The attempts to get solid black breasts could be one of the reasons so many US Brown-Reds (Copper Blacks) carry the recessive Wheaten gene. Wheatens and Golden Salmons (Gold Duckwings) both have solid black breasts.
Brown-Red (Copper Blacks) pullets carry the recessive Wheaten gene very often have correct plumage at maturity, whereas the cock birds have excess red on the breast and/or yellow neck hackle feathering
David


Another problem is the French standard which the proposed APA standard is supposed to be based on changes.

What if you cross a wheaten and a black copper?? What do you get?​

 

[Chickaholic]

I am new to this thread and to chickens, just wanted to say hi!! I also wanted to share with all of you my exciting news!! I have a dozen Wheaten and Blue Wheaten eggs (Bev Davis line) goin in the bator tomorrow!!

I can't wait to see them hatch

I will post pics soon.... Thanks everyone for your good info!!